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Old 08-03-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Yes, I agree. The atheist beliefs should be kept out as well. All's fair...

Hat, check, coat, check, morals ethics principles beliefs check....parked at the door.
How?

Athiesm is defined as a lack of belief.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:43 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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How?

Athiesm is defined as a lack of belief.
It is better to not believe in a theist than to believe in one. It is a belief that no theist exists. They believe in evolution. They believe in a science that excludes theology and theists. This is who they are.

They can no better check that at the door than a believer in Christ; a believer in a theist can check their belief at the door, or a Buddhist or a Hindu or anyone can check their personal beliefs at the door along with their personal property.

Religion is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or in general a set of beliefs explaining the existence of and giving meaning to the universe, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

It is against their moral conduct their moral code to, pray. They have a moral code---don't pray. The meaning to man can be found by following the evolution of things, not by following a theist.

They can live in denial of being a religion all they want, but a belief is a belief and can never be a non-belief. It is what it is.
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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The meaning to man can be found by following the evolution of things, not by following a theist.
I've never ever met an atheist who claimed that "the meaning to man" could be found by studying evolution. It's a useful (and strongly supported) theory to explain biological diversity. (And I think you mean "deity", not theist?)
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:55 PM
 
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What's with all of the Christian persecution threads lately? Some people really have a bad case of the "Poor Me Syndrome".
Now hiring: "Professional victims apply within."
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:17 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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I've never ever met an atheist who claimed that "the meaning to man" could be found by studying evolution. It's a useful (and strongly supported) theory to explain biological diversity. (And I think you mean "deity", not theist?)
I had to ask my daughter, she's atheist. She said, anti-theist. (Atheist) To elaborate what she said following, a belief that a theists does not exist.

You are right in that I was off target on 'the meaning to man', evolution is a theory believed to have followed the big bang. Man has no meaning, we just is that's all.
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Old 08-03-2010, 11:53 PM
 
Location: California
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They can live in denial of being a religion all they want, but a belief is a belief and can never be a non-belief. It is what it is.
"belief" does not equal "religion". Your entire arguement is silly.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:03 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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"belief" does not equal "religion". Your entire arguement is silly.
"a general set of beliefs", yep that's silly alright.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Earth
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It is better to not believe in a theist than to believe in one. It is a belief that no theist exists. They believe in evolution. They believe in a science that excludes theology and theists. This is who they are.
Are you saying that no christers believe in evolution? Is bald a hair color?
Tell me, what is the affirmative belief I have as an atheist?
I don't believe in Santa or fairies, either. What affirmative belief does this provide?


They can no better check that at the door than a believer in Christ; a believer in a theist can check their belief at the door, or a Buddhist or a Hindu or anyone can check their personal beliefs at the door along with their personal property.
Please explain your logic. I'm missing something here.

Religion is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or in general a set of beliefs explaining the existence of and giving meaning to the universe, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
What god/s do atheists believe in then?

It is against their moral conduct their moral code to, pray. They have a moral code---don't pray. The meaning to man can be found by following the evolution of things, not by following a theist.

They can live in denial of being a religion all they want, but a belief is a belief and can never be a non-belief. It is what it is.
Let's see, your first paragraph makes no sense.
Can you provide proof, other than your opinion? I'm curious at how you came to this judgment.

See, christers, other religious and non religious can, and many do, believe in science.
If not for science, you wouldn't be typing on a computer. You couldn't have surgery, etc.
Or is it only science when it suits you?

It's harassment to do crazy christer rituals over me.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:39 AM
 
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What happened to all the people who wanted government out of employers hair? Why are they up in arms? Didn't they say that government should not get involved in employer / employee disputes?
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:56 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Let's see, your first paragraph makes no sense.
Can you provide proof, other than your opinion? I'm curious at how you came to this judgment.

See, christers, other religious and non religious can, and many do, believe in science.
If not for science, you wouldn't be typing on a computer. You couldn't have surgery, etc.
Or is it only science when it suits you?

It's harassment to do crazy christer rituals over me.
wow
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