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Old 08-04-2010, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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How can anyone support the lying hypocritical Republican party?


I have no idea how anybody can support both the Republican and Democrat parties, when there isn't any difference between the two. When one is in charge of any State or Congress, this side gets in all kinds of legal trouble. And then when the other side is in charge, this one too gets in the same kinds of trouble. At least the Republicans have been in less trouble since the Democrats have ruled Congress the longest, but both are equally crooked.

And to you the OP, I would like to ask a question: who is in charge of Congress these days, and what's the job approval rate of Congress today? 11%? That should tell you how bad both the Republicans and Democrats are doing, but mostly the ones who hold the majority.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Feel The Love View Post
They won't answer these questions. I point out their hypocrisy daily and they either ignore it or attack the messenger. Great examples, good luck getting through to them though.
Agreed. This is a great topic but the right wingers won't be able to make an intelligent rebuttal.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:33 AM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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At least our buddy Bill Clinton didnt go around crying about family values and religion.
From Time Magazine archive:


"During the Democratic Convention, Bill Clinton and Al Gore staged a sort of pre-emptive celebration of family values, claiming the issue for themselves."

More, lots more:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-8385528.html (broken link)



Here is a telling statement I agree with:

"Bill Clinton was religious. Bill Clinton could quote Scripture with the best of them. Bill Clinton could preach with the best of them. He gave some very powerful speeches at Notre Dame, where he sounded Catholic; at African-American churches, where he sounded AME or Baptist. Now, these all overlap. It wasn't contradictory. And he quoted Scripture at least as much, if not more than George W. Bush does."

From here on presidents and religion:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../religion.html



See you really don't carry any weight with your statement, its just your feelings, but the facts state something totally different! Empty!
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:46 AM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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They vote against the very ideas that were theirs to begin with...

McConnell's hypocrisy on campaign disclosure

McConnell remained a true believer in disclosure as a candidate for re-election in 1990, when he pledged to introduce a bill that would require full disclosure of donors to multi-candidate political-action committees.

Now that corporations are people, too, in the eyes of the court and free to spend at will on political causes, McConnell doesn't want his buddies in the nation's boardrooms pestered by any disclosure rules.

So, he's leading the filibuster that so far has blocked passage of a proposal to require corporations, unions and most other independent organizations to open up the books on their political spending.


McConnell's hypocrisy on campaign disclosure - Editorial - Kentucky.com

The Thirty Year History Of Republicans Supporting the Individual Mandate

Republican support for the individual mandate policy goes back further than this health care reform discussion. Earlier this month, Julie Rovner profiled a history of the policy dating back to the 1980′s

In fact, says Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, the individual mandate was originally a Republican idea. “It was invented by Mark Pauly to give to George Bush Sr. back in the day, as a competition to the employer mandate focus of the Democrats at the time.”…

“We called this responsible national health insurance,” says Pauly. “There was a kind of an ethical and moral support for the notion that people shouldn’t be allowed to free-ride on the charity of fellow citizens.”


The policy was originally included in many Republican proposals including the proposals during the Clinton administration. The leading GOP alternative plan known as the 1994 Consumer Choice Health Security Act included the requirement to purchase insurance. Further, this proposal was based off of a 1990 Heritage Foundation proposal outlined a quality health system where “government would require, by law every head of household to acquire at least a basic health plan for his or her family.”

The Thirty Year History Of Republicans Supporting the Individual Mandate « DC Progressive


Republicans Spurn Once-Favored Health Mandate
Republicans Spurn Once-Favored Health Mandate : NPR


McCain-Palin proposed a market based cap-and-trade program to address climate change:

THEN: ”John McCain and Sarah Palin will establish a market-based system to curb greenhouse gas emissions, mobilize innovative technologies, and strengthen the economy.”

NOW: Palin claims, cap-and-trade (which is part of President Obama’s plan) “…is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.”


The Democratic Party (http://www.democrats.org/a/2009/07/sarah_palins_fl.php - broken link)


It would be funny if it were not so pathetic. I really wish we has a third part, but these Republican jokers and frauds need to be shown the door.

So, are you saying that the Repubs are the only lying hypocritical parrty?

Just curious.


How about "hateful" ... want to tag 'em with that one too? Or even "racist"?

Careful ... Wouldn't want you to step on a dog turd and end up smelling like *****!

tsk, tsk !!!!!
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Old 08-04-2010, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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How could he cry about those things he didn't have any of?
Well, he did a better job raising his daughter than Sarah Palin did.
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Old 08-04-2010, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Republicans Spurn Once-Favored Health Mandate
Republicans Spurn Once-Favored Health Mandate : NPR
The bill is thousands of pages long with a list of reasons to repeal it, that goes on forever. Just because that one part of it is similar, it does make it exactly what the GOP wanted....how it's being implemented, all the penalties people and companies will be eventually paying....isn't what the GOP once favored. They are way too many other problems with it any way.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:42 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And if I wasted any time answering those things from the Dem Party, opinion pieces and other left leaning places what would I get from wasting the time?


Educated?
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:44 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
How could he cry about those things he didn't have any of?


Maybe he could get some 'family values' instruction from Mark Sanford, Newtie Boy Gingrich, et al, eh?
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by sickofnyc View Post
They vote against the very ideas that were theirs to begin with...

McConnell's hypocrisy on campaign disclosure

McConnell remained a true believer in disclosure as a candidate for re-election in 1990, when he pledged to introduce a bill that would require full disclosure of donors to multi-candidate political-action committees.

Now that corporations are people, too, in the eyes of the court and free to spend at will on political causes, McConnell doesn't want his buddies in the nation's boardrooms pestered by any disclosure rules.

So, he's leading the filibuster that so far has blocked passage of a proposal to require corporations, unions and most other independent organizations to open up the books on their political spending.

McConnell's hypocrisy on campaign disclosure - Editorial - Kentucky.com

The Thirty Year History Of Republicans Supporting the Individual Mandate

Republican support for the individual mandate policy goes back further than this health care reform discussion. Earlier this month, Julie Rovner profiled a history of the policy dating back to the 1980′s

In fact, says Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, the individual mandate was originally a Republican idea. “It was invented by Mark Pauly to give to George Bush Sr. back in the day, as a competition to the employer mandate focus of the Democrats at the time.”…

“We called this responsible national health insurance,” says Pauly. “There was a kind of an ethical and moral support for the notion that people shouldn’t be allowed to free-ride on the charity of fellow citizens.”

The policy was originally included in many Republican proposals including the proposals during the Clinton administration. The leading GOP alternative plan known as the 1994 Consumer Choice Health Security Act included the requirement to purchase insurance. Further, this proposal was based off of a 1990 Heritage Foundation proposal outlined a quality health system where “government would require, by law every head of household to acquire at least a basic health plan for his or her family.”

The Thirty Year History Of Republicans Supporting the Individual Mandate « DC Progressive


Republicans Spurn Once-Favored Health Mandate
Republicans Spurn Once-Favored Health Mandate : NPR


McCain-Palin proposed a market based cap-and-trade program to address climate change:

THEN: ”John McCain and Sarah Palin will establish a market-based system to curb greenhouse gas emissions, mobilize innovative technologies, and strengthen the economy.”

NOW: Palin claims, cap-and-trade (which is part of President Obama’s plan) “…is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.”

The Democratic Party (http://www.democrats.org/a/2009/07/sarah_palins_fl.php - broken link)


It would be funny if it were not so pathetic. I really wish we has a third part, but these Republican jokers and frauds need to be shown the door.
Yes the Republican party is the party of big money intresst and the party that acts as a stooge for the rich.
And as long as it benefits the rich like extending the Bush tax cuts or a repeal the estate tax permanently and the Republicans are not att all worried about the huge long term defecits it would lead to.
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Old 08-04-2010, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Republicans are the quintessential flip-floppers.

Sorry, but they have a lot of catching up to do if they are to ever take the Democrat's title as world champion flip-floppers.



YouTube - Democrats Hypocrisy Over The Iraq War


YouTube - Then and Now; Democrats Debating Themselves


YouTube - Jackie Mason '08 Vlog 44 Obama's Flip-Flops
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