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View Poll Results: Would you like to see same-sex marriage become legal where you live?
It is already legal where I live 18 6.02%
Yes 184 61.54%
No 92 30.77%
Not sure 5 1.67%
Voters: 299. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-04-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Earth
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so what
Can't blame this on "liberals" or "the left"
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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This should come as no surprise to anyone following the case. The opposing side presented very weak (and in some cases non-existent arguments).
Agreed. THe Prop-8 defenders put up an almost laughably bad case. Every single person they put on the stand got demolished by the plantiffs.

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I wholeheartedly support the decision. My only fear is that this will turn into another Roe v. Wade. A majority of Americans supports access to abortion, but the decision is still held up by an angry minority as "judical activism." Long after a majority of the population comes to support gay marriage, this decision could become a similar rallying cry.
The only ones complaining about "judicial activism" are the ones who didn't actually READ the court documents and the actual case to begin with.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Awesome! Now people can marry whoever and whatever they want. Soon, we'll be able to marry our pets and inflatable dolls, too. Hurray for the USA!
Not inanimate objects because they can't consent. But poly marriage might be next. A bisexual wants to marry a male and a female... What's stopping him/her?
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Can't blame this on "liberals" or "the left"
you brought up political parties not me, wonder why. The thread is about the decision not republican or democrat.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Not inanimate objects because they can't consent. But poly marriage might be next. A bisexual wants to marry a male and a female... What's stopping him/her?
Ideally, nothing.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the scenario you presented.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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Not inanimate objects because they can't consent. But poly marriage might be next. A bisexual wants to marry a male and a female... What's stopping him/her?
Slippery slope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Long Beach
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Today is a great day for civil liberties and rights! God bless the justice system. It always prevails over evil and discrimination.

This is a long time coming, we are entering a new era in America.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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As a Catholic I am pleased that the bishops were ruled wrong and to stay out of the lives of Americans [same applies to Mormons].
Uh-oh. No Eucharist for you!
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Who happens to be a Republican appointed by George W. Bush.
Propositions where citizens have a say in major decisions is a two-edged sword that can be abused. I favor the California system even if I disagree with the voters. The balance is when the court weighs in as they have in several other cases where voters approved something that was unconstitutional.
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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so much for the will of the people.
Depends on what people your talking about
Who funded Prop 8 in the first place - who was the most
vocal?

Max Blumenthal: Who Is The Mystery Man Behind Prop 8?

The Mormons' donations are well known, and are a source of outrage among the church's more moderate elements. But little attention has been focused on two of the proposition's biggest individual donors: Elsa Broekhuizen, the mother of Blackwater founder Erik Prince, and Howard F. Ahmanson Jr., the reclusive theocratic millionaire who inherited $300 million from his philanthropist father at age 18.

Though Ahmanson's rhetoric has softened over the years, his politics are derived from the radical Christian Reconstructionist theology of R.J. Rushdoony, a far-right theologian who advocated replacing the US Constitution with biblical law. "God's government prevails".

San Diego's Qualcomm Stadium to cover "The Call," An 80,000-strong Pentecostal rally for Prop 8. The Call organizer, Lou Engle, gathered his troops together for several days of fasting and prayer to stop what he called the "sexual insanity" of Prop 8 opponents. The rally culminated with Engle imploring his fervent crowd to become martyrs, to be willing to lay down their lives for the cause.

Behind the Christian right's panicked pleas for preserving "traditional marriage" lies a more deep-seated fear. California's rejection of Prop 8 would represent a decisive repudiation of the theocratic fantasy outlined by Rushdoony and mainstreamed by Jerry Falwell, James Dobson, Lou Engle and countless evangelical minions. Ahmanson has spent what he could to keep his mentor's dream alive, but the movement's nightmare may arrive nonetheless.
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