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It's always worth it to support those in need (i.e. seniors with no income).
Everyone deserves a good quality of life. One of the most basic foundations of a democracy is that the people get their essential needs fulfilled. Call it what you like, socialism, communism, or just plain old common sense, but keeping everyone happy and healthy is pretty much mandatory. Now, there are better ways for us to get this money. Haven't you heard that 1% of the population owns half the world's wealth? It would only be fair for that 1% to share its wealth with those in need.
It's always worth it to support those in need (i.e. seniors with no income).
The issues isnt, if supporting those in need is a "worthy" cause, its who is responsible for doing so.. There is NOTHING in the Constitution authorizing the federal government for individuals in need. In fact just the opposite is true. The Constitution says that if its not discussed in the Constitution, then that responsibity falls to the states..
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Everyone deserves a good quality of life.
Wrong.. Everyone deserves a quality of life in relationship to the effort and results of those efforts.
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One of the most basic foundations of a democracy is that the people get their essential needs fulfilled.
1) We are not a Democracy, we are a Representative Republic
2) The basic foundation of democracies is that majority rules the minority, it has nothing at all to do with needs, it has everything to do with wants.. This is the reason why we are not a Democracy. Under a Democracy majority rules, which means gays for example cant get married. But with the recent court ruling, overturning prop 8, we see the benefits to gays, the minority. Are you now claiming that majority rules thereby Prop 8 should stand?
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Call it what you like, socialism, communism, or just plain old common sense, but keeping everyone happy and healthy is pretty much mandatory.
Wrong again.. I can see where your postings are going to be, and you just joined here. Its not common sense to keep everyone happy and healthy.. Its common sense to allow people to keep themself happy and healthy. Let me give you an example, do you think you would be happy if you were given $10M? So according to your argument, giving you $10M is only common sense right? How about if we gave everyone $10M, why that would make the nation happy and no one would have a need to work right? Wouldnt that be wonderful? Yes, but it just lacks common sense.
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Now, there are better ways for us to get this money. Haven't you heard that 1% of the population owns half the world's wealth? It would only be fair for that 1% to share its wealth with those in need.
Ahh, another, you have too much so give it to me poster.. Tell me "zero", what have you done to earn that wealth to make you think you are entitled to the fruits of someone elses labor?
It's always worth it to support those in need (i.e. seniors with no income).
Everyone deserves a good quality of life. One of the most basic foundations of a democracy is that the people get their essential needs fulfilled. Call it what you like, socialism, communism, or just plain old common sense, but keeping everyone happy and healthy is pretty much mandatory. Now, there are better ways for us to get this money. Haven't you heard that 1% of the population owns half the world's wealth? It would only be fair for that 1% to share its wealth with those in need.
Based on the premise of your position. I must tell you that I have a friend in need. You are responsible for them, so please... mail them all of your money you obtain. They need it. I don't care that you earned it, I don't care if my friend failed to properly manage his own affairs. Your lack of liquidating all that you own to help him shows you are selfish. Send it now or forever be cast as a hateful and selfish person who would see to their own needs above that of others!
Greedy people, I will never understand them! Our country put down a document that said ALL have a right to a better life. This means that ALL must provide for everyone! If one isn't having a better life, then it is up to everyone to insure that they do! If they do not submit, they are evil selfish people!
Send your money now. Liquidate all that you have to help.
Your bank account is a great example of redistribution. The money doesn't sit around and procreate. It won't grow on its own sitting at home. The bank leverages it to loan and earn interest from someone else and perhaps you benefit from it as interest in return and the bank certainly does.
PS. Don't worry about negative connotations, I can see your points. Things are what they are, welfare, redistribution or anything else.
Sorry, but my bank account is not an example of redistribution. It is my private property, and I also have the prescience to understand that the coin that I deposit is not necessarily the coin that I will withdraw on a future occasion.
Certainly you don't propose that the government is an investment vehicle, and thereby multiplies wealth. That would be TOO hilarious of a proposition.
What modern, industrialized country doesn't have a program like social security?
How many countries have a Constitution which says that responsible falls on the state?
btw, 113 countries of some sort of Social Security, this is out of what, 175?
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What was the thumbs up for? There was nothing at all contributed?
How many countries have a Constitution which says that responsible falls on the state?
What was the thumbs up for? There was nothing at all contributed?
It is my opinion that the question hits right at the heart of the matter and is a valid one. What modern industrialized nation doesn't have a program similar to SS?
It is my opinion that the question hits right at the heart of the matter and is a valid one. What modern industrialized nation doesn't have a program similar to SS?
The question added nothing to the matter. What does a list of countries which have a SS program have to do with how we operate? Are you now claiming that gay marriages here shouldnt be legalized because other countries dont offer gay marriage? How about slavery? Are you now saying that americans fighting for our indepenance from the British monarchy over things like slavery was wrong? I mean hey, if other countries had slaves, then we should as well right?
Again, how many other countries have Constitution which limits the size of the federal government and puts such liabilities on the states?
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