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Old 08-07-2010, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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No, they are there, go ahead and read them, dont be skeered, though you're going to see things you dont want to admit to. It really is amusing to look back at those old posts.




"A lie repeated becomes the truth."

You either have a link or you don't.
Or you know it's the truth.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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As an independent this is the way I see it: both the Republicans and the Democrats in Congress have lost tough with the voters who have put them there, and both are just as crooked. That's why their job approval rate is around 11%. It also means that incumbents from both sides will lose their jobs, specially a whole bunch of the ones who hold control of Congress (Democrats). The Rhino Republicans are also in big trouble this time.
Agree 100%.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Or you know it's the truth.
Because, as the previous poster stated, you repeat the lie enough it becomes the truth (to you).
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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This analysis of conservative RW focus groups' responses draws the clearest portrait of the current makeup of the right wing that I've ever seen. It's in two parts: their objections to Obama (interestingly, race is not an issue) and their sense of shared identity. The survey strongly indicates that the Republican Party as we've known it is in big trouble -- "weak, old, and out of touch."

About Obama, four common "pillars" emerge:
Pillar #1 – Deception and a Hidden Agenda

Pillar #2 – Speed ("Obama is pushing his agenda at record pace because he does not want the American people to know what he is doing")

Pillar #3 – Driving Government to the Brink and Total Control

Pillar #4 – The Ultimate Goal: Socialism and End to Liberties
The sense of shared identity is apparent: these conservatives see themselves as an oppressed minority, whose news sources understand what's really going on ("Their antipathy and distrust toward the mainstream media could not be stronger, and they fiercely defend FOX as the only truly objective news outlet"). But most important, "They see a nascent movement building, still not fully realized or activated but with a growing number of people watching and listening, growing increasingly frustrated, and looking for ways to stop the growing threat they perceive."

This is an analysis of survey results, with many quotes from the survey takers; it does not opine or argue. If you describe yourself as conservative/independent, do you see yourself here?

Democracy Corps » The Very Separate World of Conservative Republicans (http://www.democracycorps.com/focus/2009/10/the-very-separate-world-of-conservative-republicans/?section=Analysis - broken link)


Yep, failing by every objective standard!

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Generic Congressional Vote

Not sure what the Republicans can do to reform their image.

Pollster.com - Political Surveys and Election Polls, Trends, Charts and Analysis


"The survey results show that independent voters now favor a generic Republican candidate for Congress over a generic Democratic candidate by 12 points, a trend that appears to be tied to their feelings about President Obama. Dissatisfaction with Obama appears to be a reason independents favor the Republican Party this year," writes Gallup's Jeffrey Jones. More than half (51 percent) of independent registered voters disapprove of the job the president is doing. Of that group, more than seven in 10 said they preferred a generic Republican candidate to a generic Democratic one."

<h4>Telephone Survey Reveals Shift In Independent Voters</h4> (http://www.bernett.com/Bernett-Marketing-Research-Blog/bid/42818/Telephone-Survey-Reveals-Shift-In-Independent-Voters - broken link)


Looks like none of these independents saw the Democracy Corps survey that explains how they are dissatisfied with the Republican Party.
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Because, as the previous poster stated, you repeat the lie enough it becomes the truth (to you).
Are you saying that you have never seen a racist post here directed at Obama?

Were you posting here when the "macaca" flap came up a couple of years ago?
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Old 08-07-2010, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Are you saying that you have never seen a racist post here directed at Obama?

Were you posting here when the "macaca" flap came up a couple of years ago?


Got a link?
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Got a link?
Not going to look. Do your own research. I've given you the key word for the search.
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:51 PM
 
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This analysis of conservative RW focus groups' responses draws the clearest portrait of the current makeup of the right wing that I've ever seen. It's in two parts: their objections to Obama (interestingly, race is not an issue) and their sense of shared identity. The survey strongly indicates that the Republican Party as we've known it is in big trouble -- "weak, old, and out of touch."

About Obama, four common "pillars" emerge:
Pillar #1 – Deception and a Hidden Agenda

Pillar #2 – Speed ("Obama is pushing his agenda at record pace because he does not want the American people to know what he is doing")

Pillar #3 – Driving Government to the Brink and Total Control

Pillar #4 – The Ultimate Goal: Socialism and End to Liberties
The sense of shared identity is apparent: these conservatives see themselves as an oppressed minority, whose news sources understand what's really going on ("Their antipathy and distrust toward the mainstream media could not be stronger, and they fiercely defend FOX as the only truly objective news outlet"). But most important, "They see a nascent movement building, still not fully realized or activated but with a growing number of people watching and listening, growing increasingly frustrated, and looking for ways to stop the growing threat they perceive."

This is an analysis of survey results, with many quotes from the survey takers; it does not opine or argue. If you describe yourself as conservative/independent, do you see yourself here?

Democracy Corps » The Very Separate World of Conservative Republicans (http://www.democracycorps.com/focus/2009/10/the-very-separate-world-of-conservative-republicans/?section=Analysis - broken link)
You paste an analysis from an organization founded by two very partisan democrats, James Carville and Stanley Greenberg. and you want us to take it serious.

Bet you didn't think we would check it out, huh?
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