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I think if you would take the time and actually ask someone who is a tea partier, 9/12 er whatever...you would actually find out that people do not oppose paying taxes..what they oppose is big govt, big spending, disrespect for our Constitution, and re-distribution of wealth to settle some ideological score. Oh by the way..we also oppose communists, socialists, maoists..and all the other "ists". Basically Obama and all of his crew. Higher taxes are just a consequence of bigger Govt and wealth shifting..and when I say wealth..I mean ordinary people...giving to those who are lazy, incompetent or just simply looking for a handout..
It's time some people realize that life is not fair..so do the best you can and stand on your own two feet...
So it is time for a real change this time....
Absolutely. This change is killing us. I do disagree- I'm no tea partier. I'm a libertarian and Goldwater conservative. I think the 'tea party' movement has been co-opted by the neo conservatives, who I despise almost as much as Democrats.
^^^What federal taxes are you paying now for your local streets and roads, schools, firefighters and so forth? You might want to research before you answer.
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Originally Posted by Katiana
Prior to the stimulus, the amount of federal money going to education was 8.3%. The stimulus money is helping school districts avoid more layoffs.
So, by your reasoning money makes the best schools. And if you want a good education, you MUST go to one of those schools. Because these are the best schools in the world those that go there have to be the smartest, best educated people in the world. Since Harverd Business School is one of the most expensive in the world, anyone who goes there MUST be on of the smartest in the world.
Thank you for your praise of President Georg W. Bush. I'm glad you finally agree.
Do not put words in my mouth. Harvard is a private school, for one thing. I was talking about K-12, for another. This has nothing to do with George W. Bush.
I think if you would take the time and actually ask someone who is a tea partier, 9/12 er whatever...you would actually find out that people do not oppose paying taxes..what they oppose is big govt, big spending, disrespect for our Constitution, and re-distribution of wealth to settle some ideological score. Oh by the way..we also oppose communists, socialists, maoists..and all the other "ists". Basically Obama and all of his crew. Higher taxes are just a consequence of bigger Govt and wealth shifting..and when I say wealth..I mean ordinary people...giving to those who are lazy, incompetent or just simply looking for a handout..
It's time some people realize that life is not fair..so do the best you can and stand on your own two feet...
So it is time for a real change this time....
My very favorite Tea Party sign says "Cut taxes, not defense". It shows what a shallow understanding of the issues some TPers have.
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I work my a$$ off to pay for the government schools through my property taxes AND for a superior education at a private school. Again, the free market. Areas with 'good schools' will attract people there, and businesses will locate there to take advantage of good labor pools- if the government stays out of it.
Ah, the good old free market. As if kids should be treated like widgets, to be sold. Don't all kids deserve good schools? Or do just some of them deserve that? If their parents don't have enough money to relocate to these "good" neighborhoods, should they get a mediocre education?
Youv'e got me confused. Your first post says claims no federal tax dollars go to streets, roads, schools etc.
I submit that is a false claim.
You then say fed tax dollars DO go to schools.
Straighten me out, please.
I suggest that he lookup Communtiy block grant programs which is federal money going to the sate and local government.We will be much better offf when sates and local governamnt have to tax to pay for those cost as local taxpayers will have to decide if they want to pay in cost in tax increrases. As it is much of it is wasted as local and sate governamnts aplly for any grants avilacle needed projects or not.
I suggest that he lookup Communtiy block grant programs which is federal money going to the sate and local government.We will be much better offf when sates and local governamnt have to tax to pay for those cost as local taxpayers will have to decide if they want to pay in cost in tax increrases. As it is much of it is wasted as local and sate governamnts aplly for any grants avilacle needed projects or not.
I agree. The fed is in way to many aspects of our lives.
They "give" money back to the states in the form of bribery. If you don't do as they wish you will not get funds. There is always strings attached.
I remember when the feds wanted to reduce all highways to a max of 55 mph. Many wetern states protested. The feds thretened them with If you don't reduce your speed limits to 55 we will not give you any transporation money.
My very favorite Tea Party sign says "Cut taxes, not defense". It shows what a shallow understanding of the issues some TPers have.
Ah, the good old free market. As if kids should be treated like widgets, to be sold. Don't all kids deserve good schools? Or do just some of them deserve that? If their parents don't have enough money to relocate to these "good" neighborhoods, should they get a mediocre education?
No one 'deserves' a free education or anything else. That's where you socialists are so deluded. All of us have to work- and after what the GOP and the Democrats have done- work ALOT HARDER for whatever we want. You are correct. If a kids' parents don't work, they get a mediocre education. One only values what one works for.
This Tea Party seems to want to cut everything, as if the Government is Satan incarnate. Look, I hate taxes as much as the next person, but to keep this nation of 300 Million up and running, we need to pay taxes.
As our great savior once said, "Pay to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."
And yes I am a Christian and I do know what I'm talking about.
So the vast amounts of tax dollars paid out in the form of foreign aid helps to keep our roads and schools in prime shape?
What about the billions wasted in pork spending?
What about the money wasted to keep Rangel driving a leased caddy?
As I understand it the Tea party isn't against taxes or public spending. They are against blatant waste.
I am not a tea party member but I do agree with controling Gov spending.
Pay as you go as done today is a joke.
Balanced budget? When are we going to do that?
Now this is an extremely partisan thread. Only the republicans favor tax cuts and balanced budget? Only republicans are asking for fiscal responsibility?
Last time I checked neither party seemed able to deliver on these issues.
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