NYC: Mosque yes, Church no (Iran, accuse, radical, myths)
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I consider myself very liberal and tolerant but also wary of religions. If a Christian denomination condoned whipping women for adultery and hanging teenage boys of homosexually, where beheadings and carnage was done in the name of God and where innocent Americans were murdered by its followers, would that religion even have a chance at building a church near the World Trade Center? I don't think so. Yet Islam, the most violent and backward of religions is given consideration. Doesn't make sense to me.
Islam is just younger. They're just in their Jihad (crusade) stage.
We've got at least three more of those, then an enlightenment period in about 200 years, maybe a little longer (things move faster today).
Of course by then, Christianity will just be what the Roman myths are now, and we'll all be scientologists and worship L Ron Hubbard as God, and Tom Cruise as his only begotten son, so that whosoever believeth in him, shall not perish, but have every lasting gayness.
Islam is just younger. They're just in their Jihad (crusade) stage.
We've got at least three more of those, then an enlightenment period in about 200 years, maybe a little longer (things move faster today).
Of course by then, Christianity will just be what the Roman myths are now, and we'll all be scientologists and worship L Ron Hubbard as God, and Tom Cruise as his only begotten son, so that whosoever believeth in him, shall not perish, but have every lasting gayness.
LOL
The world can not wait for Islam to mature; it is a dangerous and savage religion. When is Islamic leadership going to condemn their followers atrocities?
The world can not wait for Islam to mature; it is a dangerous and savage religion. When is Islamic leadership going to condemn their followers atrocities?
A group of high-level Muslim leaders condemned the recent flare in violence against Iraqi Christians and said that there was no justification in Islam for the attacks.
I consider myself very liberal and tolerant but also wary of religions. If a Christian denomination condoned whipping women for adultery and hanging teenage boys of homosexually, where beheadings and carnage was done in the name of God and where innocent Americans were murdered by its followers, would that religion even have a chance at building a church near the World Trade Center? I don't think so. Yet Islam, the most violent and backward of religions is given consideration. Doesn't make sense to me.
Sounds llike you're describing crazy christers, too.
Evangelicals of all abrahamic religions are pretty much the same.
Christers in the US are trying to deny some people the right to marry, to have equal rights.
I see no real differences between any of the abrahamics.
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The world can not wait for Islam to mature; it is a dangerous and savage religion. When is Islamic leadership going to condemn their followers atrocities?
The world survived christers; it will survive this.
Under Sadaam there was, more or less, religious harmony and acceptance; at least, in comparison to now.
Think we may have changed the dynamic by attacking a sovereign nation because "they tried to kill my daddy" and "a holy war"?
I consider myself very liberal and tolerant but also wary of religions. If a Christian denomination condoned whipping women for adultery and hanging teenage boys of homosexually, where beheadings and carnage was done in the name of God and where innocent Americans were murdered by its followers, would that religion even have a chance at building a church near the World Trade Center? I don't think so. Yet Islam, the most violent and backward of religions is given consideration. Doesn't make sense to me.
Well, good news! You're probably a left-leaning libertarian then because true liberals love Islam and are tolerant of nothing but their own bassakwards destructive and divisive anti-American leftist ideals.
I consider myself very liberal and tolerant but also wary of religions. If a Christian denomination condoned whipping women for adultery and hanging teenage boys of homosexually, where beheadings and carnage was done in the name of God and where innocent Americans were murdered by its followers, would that religion even have a chance at building a church near the World Trade Center? I don't think so. Yet Islam, the most violent and backward of religions is given consideration. Doesn't make sense to me.
There are more than half a million Muslims in New York City. When's the last time you saw them whipping adulterous women and hanging gay teenage boys? I'm sure the Post would have been all over that.
There are more than half a million Muslims in New York City. When's the last time you saw them whipping adulterous women and hanging gay teenage boys? I'm sure the Post would have been all over that.
Don't go confusing things with the facts.
We can point out to psychotic Christian acts too, and blame the whole religion for the acts of a few.
I consider myself very liberal and tolerant but also wary of religions. If a Christian denomination condoned whipping women for adultery and hanging teenage boys of homosexually, where beheadings and carnage was done in the name of God and where innocent Americans were murdered by its followers, would that religion even have a chance at building a church near the World Trade Center? I don't think so. Yet Islam, the most violent and backward of religions is given consideration. Doesn't make sense to me.
I'm just curious here. Those of you who thrive on expounding about these violent and brutal things that Muslims do--do you just not speak to your Muslim coworkers or neighbors or Muslims that you meet in the course of business or who cross your life in general because you believe that they are this way? How do you act around them?
I'm just curious here. Those of you who thrive on expounding about these violent and brutal things that Muslims do--do you just not speak to your Muslim coworkers or neighbors or Muslims that you meet in the course of business or who cross your life in general because you believe that they are this way? How do you act around them?
I am not by any means suggesting that all Muslims are barbaric. As a Catholic, I am ashamed and at times appalled by my own religion. But a good example of how Christians are dealt with is the sexual abuse of children by priests. The media rightly so went after the Catholic hierarchy and even the pope has publicly apologized to the world for these crimes against innocent kids. I don't know the structure of Islam that well and assume that there is no pope or archbishop like we have in Christianity who can be held accountable. But it is interesting that the atrocities Christians have been involved in over the centuries are often publicly denounced by fellow Christians. I recently read where Lutherans have asked forgiveness of "anti-baptists" [another term for Baptists] and Moravians for the massacre of these people during the 1600's\ 1700's. Evidently Lutherans thought these other Christians were not "real" Christians and murdered them. Christians look back at their history with many regrets and are held to a fairly high standard today.
Muslims are doing the things that were common during the Middle-Ages. Who in the 21st century beheads people for being "infidels"? Muslims attack fellow Muslims over minor differences in their religion. And by "attack" I am referring to prolonged torture and then death. What kind of person does that to fellow citizens\ faithful? Where is the outrage among Muslims over these savage actions? [bombings of innocent people in marketplaces, stoning people to death for adultery, murdering thousands in order to have a place in heaven with 70 virgins, blaming girls for being the victim of rape and actually murdering their daughters\ sisters for the action of a male rapist]. The list of senseless and ignorant acts against humankind is endless with the Islamic faith.
Muslims should be held accountable for their followers just like Christians are. Some African Christians support the death penalty for homosexuality and are heavily criticized and publicly denounced by other Christians worldwide as well as most governments. When is the world going to stand up and confront the most vicious and criminal region on the face of the earth?: Islam
I am not by any means suggesting that all Muslims are barbaric. As a Catholic, I am ashamed and at times appalled by my own religion. But a good example of how Christians are dealt with is the sexual abuse of children by priests. The media rightly so went after the Catholic hierarchy and even the pope has publicly apologized to the world for these crimes against innocent kids. I don't know the structure of Islam that well and assume that there is no pope or archbishop like we have in Christianity who can be held accountable. But it is interesting that the atrocities Christians have been involved in over the centuries are often publicly denounced by fellow Christians. I recently read where Lutherans have asked forgiveness of "anti-baptists" [another term for Baptists] and Moravians for the massacre of these people during the 1600's\ 1700's. Evidently Lutherans thought these other Christians were not "real" Christians and murdered them. Christians look back at their history with many regrets and are held to a fairly high standard today.
Muslims are doing the things that were common during the Middle-Ages. Who in the 21st century beheads people for being "infidels"? Muslims attack fellow Muslims over minor differences in their religion. And by "attack" I am referring to prolonged torture and then death. What kind of person does that to fellow citizens\ faithful? Where is the outrage among Muslims over these savage actions? [bombings of innocent people in marketplaces, stoning people to death for adultery, murdering thousands in order to have a place in heaven with 70 virgins, blaming girls for being the victim of rape and actually murdering their daughters\ sisters for the action of a male rapist]. The list of senseless and ignorant acts against humankind is endless with the Islamic faith.
Muslims should be held accountable for their followers just like Christians are. Some African Christians support the death penalty for homosexuality and are heavily criticized and publicly denounced by other Christians worldwide as well as most governments. When is the world going to stand up and confront the most vicious and criminal region on the face of the earth?: Islam
Not to be picky, just informational: I think you meant "Anabaptists". They were persecuted by both Catholics and Protestants at the time.
I don't get, however, why so many people repeat over and over that Muslims don't condemn or act against other Muslims who use their religion to practice horrific violence. I've posted links here repeatedly that demonstrate otherwise and so have other posters. Yet, you and others apparently don't read them, and then just ask the same question or make the same statement again.
Sometimes we have to learn to let go of things we strongly believe to be true and explore the possibility that they may not be.
Bottom line: There is no black and white in any religion or culture. There is no "they".
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