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Old 08-10-2010, 11:10 AM
 
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Promising if you do not expect millions of barrels of oil being produced per day. Alage is like wind, solar, and bio-fuels, good supplemental forms of energy, but not a replacement for what we have.
Funny, but replacement is just what the cats at DARPA, have in mind.

Y'know DARPA, the guys that have been at the forefront of every technological breakthrough for over 50 years.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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Ironically, here is the Krugman writer, a mouthpiece for the socialist movement, who has his own column and he is disproven within only a few posts by members of a web board. The other irony is that he still manages to convince a few weak willed people that we don't have too much government.

What we have is too much government corruption, cronyism, collectivism, and centralized power. So to say that we have to much government pretty much nails it on the head.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Basically what Krugman is saying, is the wheels are falling off the happy go-lucky, pie in the sky, spend thrift, socialist redistribution wagon. and he tries to justify a need for increased taxes with silly statements like:

"Yes, the federal government is spending more, although not as much as you might think."

$11 trillion in debt and $1,500,000,000,000 in annual deficit spending is not that much?

We are in trouble because government thinks it's job was to redistribute wealth in many thousands of ever increasing ways. When all we really wanted from government was to protect our rights and freedoms, and provide a framework or regulations and laws form which we can live and prosper within.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Funny, but replacement is just what the cats at DARPA, have in mind.

Y'know DARPA, the guys that have been at the forefront of every technological breakthrough for over 50 years.
One day maybe, once we rely less and less on the reciprocating and turbofan engines.

Algae farms will require massive amounts of land and water. The main hurdle will be to overcome the water requirements, we can probably use great swaths of desert for the land.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I would like to see the top 5% of this country pay for the maintenance of what they own. The Republican policy for the last 50 years has been to increase the debt by cutting high end taxes and unlimited military spending for a petroleum empire so all domestic spending would be effectively eliminated. A county similar to Brazil with very small wealth based nobility lording it over a vast agri-industrial peasantry is the wealth’s idea of paradise.

I am tired of feeding these pigs the results of our hard work and creativity. They can damn well afford to repaid and replace the roads, bridges and river works they have worn out but not paid for.

We can do this if we elect honest politicians that turn in the corrupters instead of taking the bribes. I can only hope we have some people around that put the folks back home over the lobbyists in Washington. Too many of our congress critters are already very wealthy or are planning to become wealthy by selling their services to multiple high bidders.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:25 AM
 
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$11 trillion in debt and $1,500,000,000,000 in annual deficit spending is not that much?

We are in trouble because government thinks it's job was to redistribute wealth in many thousands of ever increasing ways.
I agree at least 13 trillion dollars was redistributed from tax payers to gambling addicts for a colossal global failure for which they got away with and rewarded for.

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When all we really wanted from government was to protect our rights and freedoms, and provide a framework or regulations and laws form which we can live and prosper within.
Then you should speak out in support of establishing an amendment for campaign financing and against the despicable decision of the corporate activist SCOTUS judges to allow foreign companies to meddle into US politics threatening our national sovereignity.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Please remember the GOLDEN RULE:

THEM THAT HAVE THE GOLD MAKE THE RULES!

We need to change that and make rules that help everyone prosper not just the connected few.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:31 AM
 
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One day maybe, once we rely less and less on the reciprocating and turbofan engines.
If anyone can leap frog over the technological hurdles, my money will always be on the DARPA cats.

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Algae farms will require massive amounts of land and water. The main hurdle will be to overcome the water requirements, we can probably use great swaths of desert for the land.
We have the means, we just need the will and a firm spine.

With those we could turn deserts green.

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"A Seawater Greenhouse converts sea water into fresh water using nothing more than the sun’s rays. It does this by running air through a structure whose walls are infused with cold sea water. As air enters it is immediately cooled, humidified, and then condensed into fresh water by sunlight."

Thanks for the info delusianne. This fresh water project seems very promising. The development of this technology SHOULD be lead by the US. This is not only helpful to us domestically as fresh water is not exactly a renewable resource.

We could use the ability to provide fresh water as leverage internationally. China and India are going to be hard pressed to provide fresh water for their populations as their industrialization and population continues to rise.

Much of the instability in places like Sudan (Darfur), Yemen, Somalia comes from lack of water due to increasing desertification and even the Saudis would eventually be more compliant if we had the means to increase their water supply. We might be able to reduce the loss of American tax payer money and blood with technological and diplomatic precision rather than poorly planned and reactionary brute force.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I would like to see the top 5% of this country pay for the maintenance of what they own. The Republican policy for the last 50 years has been to increase the debt by cutting high end taxes and unlimited military spending for a petroleum empire so all domestic spending would be effectively eliminated. A county similar to Brazil with very small wealth based nobility lording it over a vast agri-industrial peasantry is the wealth’s idea of paradise.
Total nonsense.

Under Bush, domestic spending went thru the roof. The education bill was the very first thing bush signed, and he had Sen. Ted Kennedy write it. It was the single most costly education bill ever signed, and each year Bush signed another huge increase. Bush also signed the Medicare Prescription drug bill. The republicans and democrats seem to be trying to out do each other with domestic spending.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:34 AM
 
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They should just change the name from the NY Times to the Daily Worker..comrade...
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