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Old 08-12-2010, 09:21 AM
 
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Sooooooooooooo, what happened?

I thought the 1073-page stimulus bill (that had to be passed right away in order to create jobs and keep unemployment below 8%) was supposed to take care of this?

Jobs picture dims as unemployment claims rise - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-claims-for-unemployment-apf-3180551258.html?x=0&.v=1 - broken link)
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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Sooooooooooooo, what happened?

I thought the 1073-page stimulus bill (that had to be passed right away in order to create jobs and keep unemployment below 8%) was supposed to take care of this?

Jobs picture dims as unemployment claims rise - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-claims-for-unemployment-apf-3180551258.html?x=0&.v=1 - broken link)
Health Insurance...
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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Like so many others who held faith in the measures that our government proposed, to stimulate the economy and help provide jobs,
you now grow tired of waiting for the trickle-down effect, perhaps the chance to get your old job back or hopefully to find a new job. We're
all disappointed in our leaders, they've obviously led us astray, effectually lied to us and have set us back to a point where the potential
chances for relief are as diminished as ever. The stimulus bailout of big business was a crapshoot, sort of like slapping a defibrillator on a dying
persons chest and hoping to jump-start the heart.

Analogously, like a doctor who has been charged with monitoring and maintaining a patients health, our legislators have been elected and
been paid to undertake and oversee that responsibility but have failed us miserably. We were there for regular checkups, kept our appointments
and paid for the doctors services as well as testing procedures and blood work. Although we were feeling a bit sluggish, depressed and generally
debilitated, the doctor and his staff kept reassuring us that it was just the effects of a 24 hour virus, a condition that we would surely recover
from if we took a few days off and rested up. They gave us placebo, xeroxed our healthcare membership cards and sent us home to await the
results of the lab tests.

Now, as we lay upon the gurney in the anteroom of the triage and emergency department, the staff is frantically running around in circles
crying, "stat, code blue", while our breathing becomes heavy and labored and the life is draining from our tired body. How very sad it is to know that
we are there at the threshold of death's door and our doctors are doing their damnedest to pull us through.
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:35 PM
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Like so many others who held faith in the measures that our government proposed, to stimulate the economy and help provide jobs,
you now grow tired of waiting for the trickle-down effect, perhaps the chance to get your old job back or hopefully to find a new job. We're
all disappointed in our leaders, they've obviously led us astray, effectually lied to us and have set us back to a point where the potential
chances for relief are as diminished as ever. The stimulus bailout of big business was a crapshoot, sort of like slapping a defibrillator on a dying
persons chest and hoping to jump-start the heart.

Analogously, like a doctor who has been charged with monitoring and maintaining a patients health, our legislators have been elected and
been paid to undertake and oversee that responsibility but have failed us miserably. We were there for regular checkups, kept our appointments
and paid for the doctors services as well as testing procedures and blood work. Although we were feeling a bit sluggish, depressed and generally
debilitated, the doctor and his staff kept reassuring us that it was just the effects of a 24 hour virus, a condition that we would surely recover
from if we took a few days off and rested up. They gave us placebo, xeroxed our healthcare membership cards and sent us home to await the
results of the lab tests.

Now, as we lay upon the gurney in the anteroom of the triage and emergency department, the staff is frantically running around in circles
crying, "stat, code blue", while our breathing becomes heavy and labored and the life is draining from our tired body. How very sad it is to know that
we are there at the threshold of death's door and our doctors are doing their damnedest to pull us through.
IOW the operation was an unqualified success, but the patient died!
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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Sooooooooooooo, what happened?

I thought the 1073-page stimulus bill (that had to be passed right away in order to create jobs and keep unemployment below 8%) was supposed to take care of this?

Jobs picture dims as unemployment claims rise - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-claims-for-unemployment-apf-3180551258.html?x=0&.v=1 - broken link)
Are you kidding? The stimulus bill was only half the size it should have been. It seems rediculous to argue over future debt whwn your house is about to colapse. Yes, debt is bad. But a 1933 style economy is a lot worse.
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:54 PM
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Are you kidding? The stimulus bill was only half the size it should have been. It seems rediculous to argue over future debt whwn your house is about to colapse. Yes, debt is bad. But a 1933 style economy is a lot worse.
Lucky us - we may get both!
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: NC
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Originally Posted by MotherLeeds13 View Post
Sooooooooooooo, what happened?

I thought the 1073-page stimulus bill (that had to be passed right away in order to create jobs and keep unemployment below 8%) was supposed to take care of this?

Jobs picture dims as unemployment claims rise - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-claims-for-unemployment-apf-3180551258.html?x=0&.v=1 - broken link)
Well...lotsa good news to go around. Foreclosures are also up 6% from last year and continues at it's record pace. And the deficit in July alone topped $165B. Meanwhile, hiring in the private sector remains stagnant due to an uncertain future with regards to possible tax increases (thanks in part, to our insurmountable debt) come January 2011 and many are uncertain as to the true effects of what healthcare reform will mean for all businesses.

It's recovery summer!
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:20 PM
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Well...lotsa good news to go around. Foreclosures are also up 6% from last year and continues at it's record pace. And the deficit in July alone topped $165B. Meanwhile, hiring in the private sector remains stagnant due to an uncertain future with regards to possible tax increases (thanks in part, to our insurmountable debt) come January 2011 and many are uncertain as to the true effects of what healthcare reform will mean for all businesses.

It's recovery summer!
C'mon you're deliberately overplaying the $165B - when you think about it that's not even $6B/day...
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:16 PM
 
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Are you kidding? The stimulous was only half the size it should have been thanks to idiots who all of a sudden, are concerned about debt. We need another 800 billion directly exclusively to job creation.
If the first stimulus was useless, what would another 800 billion do? Nothing but put us further into debt. I wonder how many unemployed folks are continuing to charge up those credit cards. I think most unemployed folks would be working to get any debts paid off and cutting spending. Trouble with debt is that eventually the bill comes due. What is going to happen to this country when the bill comes due?

We need to be cutting the federal budget significantly and cutting taxes. Repeal Obamacare, forget cap and tax, allow companies to have choices regarding unionizing, and get the government out of the way so we can work. Everyone should read up on the Depression of 1920 when unemployment went down from 11% to 3% in 18 months. Calvin Coolidge cut taxes and significantly reduced the size of the federal government. We need another Calvin Coolidge and need one NOW!
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Calvin Coolidge cut taxes and significantly reduced the size of the federal government. We need another Calvin Coolidge and need one NOW!
ROFLMAO.
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