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Old 08-11-2010, 08:28 AM
 
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Thank you for your reply.

Here's why I still don't understand your reasoning:

Capitalism is an economic theory and system, "the left" is a denomination from political theories/systems. It seems difficult to impossible to me to equate those two terms on a basic level.

All business is not capitalism, capitalism is merely a form of business.

Capitalism at its simplest is maximizing profits and shareholder value. How can political leanings of capitalist ventures give the economic theory a bad name if they still obtain that goal and thus satisfy the demands of said theory?

If by your post you mean that you find it disgusting how companies perceived as left-leaning take influence on the media, I agree with you. The media should be independent, the fourth branch of government, and keep the people informed.

But sadly, you'd need a non-profit oriented news organization for that task, and nowadays, no such thing persists. Neutral political/economic news don't bring in viewers, shocking human-interest stories and blown up scandals do.

The media of today is capitalized and profit-interested. It stands to reason that the companies owning the media outlets try to slant the news in hopes of influencing viewers, pubic opinion and accordingly political decisions in their favor. This is an imperative outcome of capitalistic theory, and has nothing to do with actual left/right ideology insofar as every news organization goes with the ideology they think will maximize their profits.

You just have to accept that in today's world, you simply cannot have unbiased news. I don't know much about the actual political influences oon media in the US, but as I gather, Fox is extreme right, NBC is left, and the others are somewhere in the middle, leaning to the left.

You just have to take that into consideration while watching the "neutral, unbiased, balanced" "news" on the respective channels.
Can you give an example of FOX NEWS being extreme right??
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Old 08-11-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: NC
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Can you give an example of FOX NEWS being extreme right??
Which part? The News part or the Commentary parts (serious question)?

Still, any example anyone may give will be seen differently by different people according to their only personal biases. Probably a question that won't end well...
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Old 08-11-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Zürich, Schweiz
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Can you give an example of FOX NEWS being extreme right??

I'm sure that there are plenty:

Let me google that for you

But no need to get agitated, the point of my post wasn't to expressively attack Fox.

Interesting nonetheless that the perceived attack on this (presumably your favorite) network is what's riling you up, and not the general bias in all media.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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Confirmed: GE CEO Immelt Scolded NBC Journalists For Reporting Negatively on Obama (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/08/confirmed-ge-chief-immelt-scolded-nbc-reporters-for-reporting-negatively-on-obama/ - broken link)
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 6:55 PM


Just can't handle the fair and balanced?

Maybe time for some new light bulbs?

Maybe some Cap and Trade?
I guess you've never heard of the Akre's case?

Here's the deal: ALL 'news' in the US is slanted towards corporate interests; at least what is defined as 'Mainstream Media.'
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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Anyone who thinks MSNBC goes easy on President Obama clearly never watches it. Dylan Ratigan, Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow constantly call him on the carpet.

Jill, the deeper point here is that GE is controlling content on NBC new sites. Pushing a far left agenda that will make GE lots of money.

Where MSNBC is hard on Bammer, it is related to Bammers not doing things that will financially benefit MSNBC’s parent company General Electric.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:40 AM
 
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The media is suppose to be the people's watch dog not ignoring really what is happening in this country. Shame on them for all of the lame reporting going on. It's the liberal left capitalist who are the crooks but their followers can't see they are what gives capitalism a bad name.
They have become the GUARD DOGS for Obama, instead.


YouTube - ‪Chris Matthews: I Will Help Obama, My Leg Still Tingles‬‎



YouTube - ‪Harry Smith Can't Resist Asking Barack Obama Softball Questions About His Dog Bo & Golfing‬‎



YouTube - ‪Obama Talks Being 'Surprised', 'Troubled', 'Enchanted', 'Humbled'‬‎
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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IF this is true, and I have my doubts, it says more about NBC than the Obama adminstration, does it not?
I see 0bama and Immelt scratching each other's backs.

Video - Confirmed: GE Chief Immelt Scolded NBC Reporters For Reporting*... - White House

Immelt Named To Obama's New Economic Advisory Board

GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt says Obama's stimulus plan will work

Obama spotlights GE’s wind partners on Earth Day

GE To Make BILLIONS From Obama Cap and Trade Scheme

Obama Plans More Than $200 Billion in Clean-Energy Spending

GE works closely with key authors of the Waxman-Markey energy bill
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:00 AM
 
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I'm sure that there are plenty:

Let me google that for you

But no need to get agitated, the point of my post wasn't to expressively attack Fox.

Interesting nonetheless that the perceived attack on this (presumably your favorite) network is what's riling you up, and not the general bias in all media.
All I saw was opinions.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:03 AM
 
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Here's the reality.

As you can see, Fox didn't deny they were distorting the news for financial reasons, they claimed they had a right to do so.

And, although this 'thinking' had been shot down by numerous courts before, this court in Fla agreed that, yes, Fox could lie for their business interests.

What is not shown here is that every major 'news' outlet- including MSNBC- wrote amicus curae briefs in favor of Fox's right to lie.

Why? Because they also are corporate entities, and they wanted the right to lie also.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Zürich, Schweiz
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All I saw was opinions.
Then please define what constitutes sound proof in your view.

And again, this wasn't against Fox News as a rightwing media outlet, but against all media outlets.

By the way, I don't see you asking for proof on my allegations on other networks. Why is that?
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