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Old 08-13-2010, 08:11 PM
 
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This is a questionnair kicked out by the Lewis and Clark Tea Party to local candidates. I ask you, are these questions appropriate for the job that they would be elected to do? I also ask, could they have asked more appropriate questions that would actually serve their interests more? And finally, if there are more appropriate questions, why didn't they ask them?

http://thelcteaparty.files.wordpress...didate-qa2.pdf

 
Old 08-13-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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With all due respect to the well meaning folks who joined them, the Tea Parties never had a prayer.

Few, if any Americans, really have a grasp of the facts in evidence in any county courthouse law library.

I know I didn't until my 30s, when I was forced by circumstances to start reading the law.

Let me sum up decades of study into one sentence:

"All law is the protection of property rights, all else is policy, and policy requires consent."


Or, as the Declaration of Independence puts it:
job #1 = secure rights (endowed by our Creator) and
job #2 = govern those who consent.

The vast majority of the problems facing the nation stem from policy empowered by consent of the governed. The scope, breadth and depth of corruption, usurpation and unwarranted actions all derive their legitimacy from consent.

Until that consent is withdrawn, no objection can stand.
After that consent is withdrawn, no objection is necessary.

For the law, on the books, still recognizes and protects the American's natural and personal liberty, his right to life, to absolutely own, and his freedom.

But for those consenting socialists*, it is most depressing. And there is no remedy in the ballot box for them. They are enslaved by their own consent, and know not how and when they gave it. They have surrendered their birthright, their endowment from their Creator, in exchange for "entitlements" and special privileges. The cost was exclusion from the protections of law - the law that secures property rights - that they no longer possess.

Do not believe me - go read the law for yourself.
Look up the delegation of the power to tax in your own state's constitution, and you will not find private property mentioned. You will only find estate (real and personal property) listed as subject to taxation.

Did you know that private property and estate are mutually exclusive?
That private property is absolutely owned by an individual, while estate is held with qualified ownership, by two or more people? Only private property is protected - not estate.

Since 1935, no enumerated American has the legal status to own private property - no lawful money - no alienation of title - no property rights for law to secure. {It was no coincidence that the Pauper's oath was abolished by FDR for recipients of "entitlements". By participation, one became a pauper at law.}

It's no conspiracy when all the facts are in print, in the public record, in every county court house in the land. Unless you count it as a conspiracy of ignorance and apathy.

(*There is no law compelling participation in socialist insecurity, nor is there any law that punishes an American who does not participate. It is 100% voluntary servitude. Yet millions believe that they are compelled by law to enroll before they can work in their own country.)


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Old 08-13-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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Is this the year of the tin-foil hat? Although America desperately needs to lose it's classical two party political system, the interjection of a third or fourth faction, comprised of tired
taxpayers with pitchforks and posters, all declaring that they've had enough, just doesn't cut it. To those who rule, it smacks of insurrection, too radically removed from their plan for us,
another lesion on the complexion of their pockmarked governance. Most, or many of the Teapartiers need an outlet for their frustrations and finding themselves with a surplus of idle time
on their hands, they've been willing to leave the air conditioned shelter of the malls and driven their gas-guzzling Sportages to the growing number of rallies. Those who're caught up in
the jingo hollering, the real patriots, will most likely have been down to Staples or Office-Max and bought their wide tip marker and poster board in the hope of being seen on CNN or a
14 second appearance on the Glenn Beck show.

I long for a day when we've become as unhappy with our government as we recently witnessed the people in Iran, the opposition to Almadine or whatever the @3#k$'s name is,
I saw such spirit in those people and the outrage which they showed to a miserable government that refuses to change it's failed ways. I wondered also, to what point me and my neighbors
will tolerate the costly incompetence of our own failed government and their seeming indifference to us. I think about those anti-war students that died at Kent State university because they too
had their fill of misguided governance, thirsty then for Vietnamese blood. Just the other day i came to understand the feelings of another internet protester who drew a similar parallel between
Madame Obama's vacation in Spain with Marie Antoinette and her apathetic regard for the suffering of her husband's subjects, a class of people who grew so sick of the flaunting of power, that
they took matters into their own hands and revolted.

America is on the verge of changing our national anthem. It has gone from America the beautiful, to "We're not gonna take it" and you can count on that, from sea to shining sea.
 
Old 08-13-2010, 10:20 PM
 
Location: mancos
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go long island eddie.ps my grandparents lived in copiague on vespucci ave. visited a couple of times in the 60's early 70's nice town
 
Old 08-13-2010, 10:34 PM
 
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I agree 100% with their stance on lower taxes, control of government spending, and holding these crooked politicians accountable. I thought they were going to be a formidable force to be reckoned with and hold both parties accountable. Instead they have become lackey's for the GOP. The New World order wackjobs within the movement have also hurt the cause. It's truly a shame because I felt that the party could have kept Obama and the Democrats in check. Instead it's spend spend spend. Business as usual in Washington. I was hoping that a new party would have been formed. A truly fiscally conservative party that roots out pork spending. Instead they have latched onto the GOP. We don't need to vote in more GOP members, we need a 3rd party that represents middle America. What could have been.
Why is it so hard for people to understand that the United States is a 2 party system? The Tea party folks are smart enough to know that, all they have to do is look at the Libertarian party. If you support what they stand for why would you want them to flounder in obscurity and not get any thing enacted?
 
Old 08-13-2010, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Copiague, NY
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go long island eddie.ps my grandparents lived in copiague on vespucci ave. visited a couple of times in the 60's early 70's nice town
Well, thank you for the shot in the arm! I've lived here for 36 years and planning to die here, Marconiville has become much like Belize or Santo Domingo
and rather than Roberto's fruit and vegetables or Cammarato's stationary, we're seeing places like the Amigo Bodega and the Pakistani Mini-mart. Yes,
Our Lady of the Assumption church is still there but between the Polish and the Hispanics, (and the loss of the traditional latin mass), you probably wouldn't
get too much out of a Sunday service there, if you visited Copiague once again.

Glad to hear that you harken back to the 60's or 70's but I really think that if you retain the memories of those wonderful days, keep them intact.
Trust me to say that with times changing the way that they have, you would only ruin those memories by coming back here. some say that Copiague is closer
to Amityville than to Lindenhurst. I say that it is closer to Sodom and Gomorrah. Thank you for the pleasant shout, I wish you well.
 
Old 08-13-2010, 10:57 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Well, thank you for the shot in the arm! I've lived here for 36 years and planning to die here, Marconiville has become much like Belize or Santo Domingo
and rather than Roberto's fruit and vegetables or Cammarato's stationary, we're seeing places like the Amigo Bodega and the Pakistani Mini-mart. Yes,
Our Lady of the Assumption church is still there but between the Polish and the Hispanics, (and the loss of the traditional latin mass), you probably wouldn't
get too much out of a Sunday service there, if you visited Copiague once again.

Glad to hear that you harken back to the 60's or 70's but I really think that if you retain the memories of those wonderful days, keep them intact.
Trust me to say that with times changing the way that they have, you would only ruin those memories by coming back here. some say that Copiague is closer
to Amityville than to Lindenhurst. I say that it is closer to Sodom and Gomorrah. Thank you for the pleasant shout, I wish you well.
wow it was pretty Italian in the day. dont want to hijack i'll look for you on the LI forum be well
 
Old 08-14-2010, 03:39 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default The Tea Party is a shame

This "party" can't be taken seriously. Their constituents sat silent while Bush wasted a trillion dollars in a spending spree of collosal proportions. All in an effort to nation-build and lose to a militarily-inferior opponent. It is not OK for these people to only complain about spending only when a Democrat is in the White House.

The foundation of the Tea Party ideology lacks substance and represents the bottom. President Obama holds the superior position across the board.
 
Old 08-14-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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This "party" can't be taken seriously. Their constituents sat silent while Bush wasted a trillion dollars in a spending spree of collosal proportions. All in an effort to nation-build and lose to a militarily-inferior opponent. It is not OK for these people to only complain about spending only when a Democrat is in the White House.

The foundation of the Tea Party ideology lacks substance and represents the bottom. President Obama holds the superior position across the board.
Once again someone is manufacturing their own reality...........Bush is the reason for the Tea Party movement........glad to see you speaking out against spending though.
 
Old 08-14-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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Wel you have to look at the democratic congress at 11% to really see unpopularity i action. It doesn't get any lower really. The republicans were not that populare either until Obama;pelosi and Reid took over.That is what rewqlly makes the tea party popular is that the others are thought of as crooks;pork spenders and totally bought out by special interest.I have never really thonught of the tea party as anything really orginized areound any issue escept spending and taxes really with othetr interest thrown in. Look at teh dmeocrtic party that includes gays;legalise dope;illegal alien supporters;tree huggers you name it.
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