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The argument isn't whether it helps the economy. Of course it does. You have the contruction jobs as you mentioned. You have service jobs at Target Field. You have jersey sales etc.
The real argument is: will all this come to 300 million over the 30 year life of stadiums? Is it JUSTIFIED. I don't know.
I know fundamentally, I have a big problem with owners getting money unless it helps Hennepin County OVERALL.
Even if it does help Hennepin long term, there is still the question of whether it is right to take taxpayer money to help a private business. A baseball field is not in the same league of public interest as, say, a hospital.
Even if it does help Hennepin long term, there is still the question of whether it is right to take taxpayer money to help a private business. A baseball field is not in the same league of public interest as, say, a hospital.
I agree. If these owners, many of which are probably conservatives (and are involved in the markets), want capitalism and hate regulation, then they shouldn't be begging for bailouts (banks, GM, sports owners).
Let some "baseball player," let me see here, some guy who takes a piece of wood, hits a small ball, and runs around some "bases." Yeah, ok. He makes, what? 10+ million dollars a year?
But, the man/woman who is the teacher of your children, to give them a better life, et al, makes 40 thousand a year? What is WRONG with this picture?
Let the baseball player, whatever that is, pay for his own damn stadium and let the rest of the money go to teachers, firefighters, police officers, et al; you know, the people who are doing the actual work.
Kills me. YOU, and I mean YOU, people will pay ten bucks for a beer, ten bucks for a hot dog, and $250 bucks for a seat to a "baseball game." But you *****, complain, and moan, when someone wants to raise your taxes by 2 cents, to pay teachers more. Yeah, you people have your thoughts straight...
Even if it does help Hennepin long term, there is still the question of whether it is right to take taxpayer money to help a private business. A baseball field is not in the same league of public interest as, say, a hospital.
Or a library that provides a service to all, not just sports fans.
Even if it does help Hennepin long term, there is still the question of whether it is right to take taxpayer money to help a private business. A baseball field is not in the same league of public interest as, say, a hospital.
If it's a good investment to partner with Ziggy, then what's the problem? Put our tax money to work for the public good for once!
IMHO
ALL governments should stay out of the sports/entertainment business. Sports teams are privately owned and (mis)managed private enterprises. If these teams need a place to play they can pay for it through ticket sales and TV advertising. Having cash strapped cities bidding for sports teams is not an appropriate use of municipal revenue. The municipalities should be taxing the teams not giving them money.
The use of public funds to build a stadium is strickly a matter of what the people of a locale want to do with their vote in most cases. Bear in mind if you don't wish to use tax dollars to support sports stadiums and arenas you shouldn't be surprised when a sports team packs up and leave i.e. the Seattle Super Sonics or the Baltimore Colts.
The use of public funds to build a stadium is strickly a matter of what the people of a locale want to do with their vote in most cases. Bear in mind if you don't wish to use tax dollars to support sports stadiums and arenas you shouldn't be surprised when a sports team packs up and leave i.e. the Seattle Super Sonics or the Baltimore Colts.
In Pittsburgh, they voted against them more than once.
Were forced to pay for them any way.
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