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"[Manufacturing, a] sector that lost 3,864,000 between 2000 and 2008 has turned around and gained 183,000 jobs so far this year."
Obama talking about mfg in the US and the Manufacturing Enhancement Act signed the other day:
That’s why we fought for and passed tax breaks for companies that are investing here in the United States rather than companies that are keeping profits offshore. That’s why we closed loopholes that encourage corporations to ship American jobs overseas. That’s why we’re enforcing our trade laws -- in some cases, for the very first time. That’s why we told America’s automakers that if they made the tough decisions required to compete in the future, that America would stand by them. And that’s why we’re investing in a clean energy industry and the jobs that come with it -– jobs that pay well and carry America to a cleaner, more secure and more energy-independent future.
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To make their products, manufacturers... often have to import certain materials from other countries and pay tariffs on those materials. This legislation will reduce or eliminate some of those tariffs, which will significantly lower costs for American companies across the manufacturing landscape -– from cars to chemicals; medical devices to sporting goods. And that will boost output, support good jobs here at home, and lower prices for American consumers.
This bill was passed with strong bipartisan support. "According to the Congressional Budget Office, the measure would save U.S. companies $298 million over three years and reduce the federal deficit by $5 million over the next decade.
"The bill will provide a badly needed boost to the nation’s manufacturing sector, according to The National Association of Manufacturers, which claims it will boost output by $4.6 billion and create 90,000 jobs."
At least on some jobs, we are now reaching equilibrium on the pay scales. Thats probably part of the reason that manufacturing jobs are increasing in the states again.
I dont know why i'm gettin plenty of views but no comments. Do we not have an opinion on outsourcing in America?
They outsourced mfg in the 70's...no one got upset
They outsourced computer programming in the 90's...no one got upset
They now outsource almost every white collar job..NOW you get upset ?
Those countries can now compete with us because they have the education and skills to do the white collar jobs. They beat us out because they have lower labor costs.
The next wave of countries are being groomed for white collar jobs..Malaysia, Vietnam, etc because now China/India are starting to cost more.
We even have the US Government (USAID) using taxpayer money to train IT workers in foreign countries so they can work for US Companies..how do you like those apples ?
I'm a computer programmer. I saw what started to happen in my field in the 90's. People only got upset AFTER their career field got offshored.
Until then..they didn't care.
Call center workers just as those who make trinkets have never been on the large end of the pay scale.
These jobs were offshored for one reason and one reason only.....corporate greed.
The jobs that are trickling back is because some of the corporate stiffs see that those in china, india etc.......aren't interested in buying their products and those in the US are no longer buying because they don't have a job. So therefore, they are bringing some jobs back. As they should and all these jobs should be brought back stateside.
At least on some jobs, we are now reaching equilibrium on the pay scales. Thats probably part of the reason that manufacturing jobs are increasing in the states again.
Driving down wages in the US are now making us competitive.
Great..will the cost of living in the US go down or will Americans work harder for less money ?
Well it was bound to happen...wages decrease so we can stay competitive.
Call center workers just as those who make trinkets have never been on the large end of the pay scale.
These jobs were offshored for one reason and one reason only.....corporate greed.
The jobs that are trickling back is because some of the corporate stiffs see that those in china, india etc.......aren't interested in buying their products and those in the US are no longer buying because they don't have a job. So therefore, they are bringing some jobs back. As they should and all these jobs should be brought back stateside.
That is not true. There is a growing middle class in both China and India that are starting to spend their money and even get CC's so they can be like US consumers.
Just look at the multi-national latest reports..revenue is coming from overseas..not here in the US. Even Walmart had good revenue from foreign countries and would have had even better earning if it were not for the bad US numbers that dragged it down.
Those countries have people who are traditional savers, not spenders.
Companies are working their advertising blitz over there to turn them into consumers.
They outsourced mfg in the 70's...no one got upset
They outsourced computer programming in the 90's...no one got upset
They now outsource almost every white collar job..NOW you get upset ?
Those countries can now compete with us because they have the education and skills to do the white collar jobs. They beat us out because they have lower labor costs.
The next wave of countries are being groomed for white collar jobs..Malaysia, Vietnam, etc because now China/India are starting to cost more.
We even have the US Government (USAID) using taxpayer money to train IT workers in foreign countries so they can work for US Companies..how do you like those apples ?
I'm a computer programmer. I saw what started to happen in my field in the 90's. People only got upset AFTER their career field got offshored.
Until then..they didn't care.
Well it's a little too late to start caring now.
ABSOLUTELY true. I remember in the Reagan era when mfg jobs were being outsourced, white collar people just shrugged their shoulders. The "them" and "us" divide-and-conquer thing had just begun back then I think.
Remember the scorn and indifference (not hate in those days) that greeted Roger & Me?
(Also in that movie I dont remember seeing a lot of palaces owned by union workers, but maybe I missed them.)
Americans have been so brainwashed regarding unions that they dont realize collective bargaining is the ONLY way there is protect their jobs. There's no other way.
That is not true. There is a growing middle class in both China and India that are starting to spend their money and even get CC's so they can be like US consumers.
Just look at the multi-national latest reports..revenue is coming from overseas..not here in the US. Even Walmart had good revenue from foreign countries and would have had even better earning if it were not for the bad US numbers that dragged it down.
Those countries have people who are traditional savers, not spenders.
Companies are working their advertising blitz over there to turn them into consumers.
Like you said, those people are a nation of savers. What little they do buy
can't keep up with what those here would buy.
This offshoring is what is building that middle class in these countries. The next wave will be to find countries who aren't that developed and use them as corporate america used china and india until they begin to grow.
Corporate America needs a wake up call in a large way.
Chrome Kitty, corporate America is doing just what it wants to do. We're letting it happen to us -- in fact many good guard dogs defend corporations' right to do this. Libertarians and people who fancy themselves "free market" types for example.
At least on some jobs, we are now reaching equilibrium on the pay scales. Thats probably part of the reason that manufacturing jobs are increasing in the states again.
No. We've got a ways to go on the lowered wages. Minimum wage in Mexico is about $4.50 a DAY, in China it's lower.
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