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Old 08-18-2010, 01:55 PM
 
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Be sure to get the quote right, not as seen in your post...

And to radical Islam, Ground Zero is... if anything... Islam conquered territory.

Thanx muchos....
I copied the paragraph as YOU wrote it.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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You're right. Life in Spain, Europe or most any where on the planet wasn't so great in the 6th - 9th centuries, or even before or after.

However, Life in Spain today, as a non-catholic isn't so bad. As I understand, one doesn't even get hassled for smoking pot in his/her own home.

But today, as a non-Muslim in an Islam conquered territory, you're still a second class citizen. And to radical Islam, Ground Zero is... if anything... Islam conquered territory. No one calls it the WTC. No one calls it the WTC Memorial. No one calls it hallowed ground. Everyone calls it Ground Zero.

May as well call it New Cordoba
Oh give me a break. I work on the project. NOBODY who has anything to do with it calls it Ground Zero.

It is the World Trade Center. The memorial at the World Trade Center is the National 911 Memorial. The tallest tower is One World Trade Center.

There is nothing "conquered" about it.
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Oh give me a break. I work on the project. NOBODY who has anything to do with it calls it Ground Zero.

It is the World Trade Center. The memorial at the World Trade Center is the National 911 Memorial. The tallest tower is One World Trade Center.

There is nothing "conquered" about it.
Uhhh, yeah. Just because your job "calls" it the project designated title doesn't mean that's what it's called nationally... or on the news.

Do a search in this thread for

World Trade Center
National 911 Memorial
One World Trade Center

Ground Zero

What's it called?
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Oh cute, you fell for that 9/11/11 opening date story.

Another person who has never been to New York.

Let's see...fundraising, demolition and building permits, actual demolition, design, bidding award, construction...all in 13 months time, and then needing police protection from the rabid anti-Muslims on opening day THE SAME day as the National 911 Memorial opens...I don't ****in' think so.

Then again, we could just read the more factual articles that tell us the timetable for this mosque to be completed is three to five years.
I don't think you could construct this building in corn field in Nebraska in less than 13 months but lets not ask people to think how totally absurd that statement is when their mind is made up.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:50 PM
 
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All they really need to is to open the door on the ground floor to 'celebrate' a new foundation for Islam.

Wouldn't even require toilets. Just a press release.
Maybe you don't realize it has been used as mosque since last year.

I am beggining to see why 70 % of the polulation is against the mosque.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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Interesting exchange between Rick Lazio and the mayor of Teaneck who is a muslim on PBS.

Mosque Near Ground Zero: Local Issue or Matter of National Debate? | PBS NewsHour | Aug. 16, 2010 | PBS
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Maybe you don't realize it has been used as mosque since last year.

I am beggining to see why 70 % of the polulation is against the mosque.
A quick press release on 9/11... sounds like it's good to go.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:52 AM
 
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Uhhh, yeah. Just because your job "calls" it the project designated title doesn't mean that's what it's called nationally... or on the news.

Do a search in this thread for

World Trade Center
National 911 Memorial
One World Trade Center

Ground Zero

What's it called?
Be fair. You did say "everyone". And of course it's not just people associated with the rebuild who call it The World Trade Center. None of the subway or PATH station signs or the NYC Subway map or any other map that I know of refers to "Ground Zero."

You are right, it is called that in the news, and the media's drama tactics have eaten into people's brains.
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:04 AM
 
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Read some history : The Koran (018:021) states: 'Build a building over them, their Lord knows best about them;' and those who prevailed in their affair said, 'We will surely make a mosque over them.'

This is not a direct commandment to build on a place of victory, but there is a tradition of building mosques to celebrate or symbolize victory.

"The al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem is built on top of one of the holiest sites in Judaism, the Temple Mount. The former St. Sophia's Basilica, once the world's largest cathedral and orthodox patriarchal basilica, was torn down and replaced with the principal mosque of Istanbul. The Cordoba mosque in Spain was a former Christian cathedral. Muslims have engaged in this practice for centuries, symbolizing their victories over the infidels."

There is a reason the Lenin referred to the American Left as "useful idiots" - WAKE UP
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:07 AM
 
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1st Cordoba Mosque - a symbol of Islamic victory against Christian Spain in 600

2nd Cordoba Mosque - a symbol of Islamic victory against Christian America in 2010

Great Mosque of Córdoba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


after that you know christians went on a crusade against the western world called the americas

one group left their country for religous freedom to settle elsewhere the country they left most likely would not have let anyone just settle in it
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