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Old 08-22-2010, 08:49 PM
 
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ive said for years now that both parties are the same.

the funny thing is i hear all these people on here saying everything will be so much better when obama is out.

they dont realize that amnesty will still be in play, bailouts, etc.

they are the same party. nobody should be donating and supporting either one of them. just waste of time.
If both parties are the same why do they vote so differently? Take the recent state gov. workers bailout package. In the Senate just about every Dem voted for it, while the Reps filibusted against it. The only GOP Senators to vote for it were the two women from Maine who call themselves Republicans. This is just one example. I see two very different voting patterns.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I see two very different voting patterns.

Only recently.

Tells you who is actually listening to the citizens.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:17 PM
 
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Well we really don't have a choice, and most seem to think that if you aren't a Republican or Democrat, somehow voting for anyone else is simply out of the question.
How do you not have a choice? Every major election has a multitude of candidates from a variety of parties to choose from. No one's forcing anyone to vote for a Democrat or a Republican.

In Nevada, there is a "none of the above" option in every election. If people were so dissatisfied with the candidates to choose from, "None of the above" would surely win at least once in a while, wouldn't it?
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If both parties are the same why do they vote so differently? Take the recent state gov. workers bailout package. In the Senate just about every Dem voted for it, while the Reps filibusted against it. The only GOP Senators to vote for it were the two women from Maine who call themselves Republicans. This is just one example. I see two very different voting patterns.
Depends on which party brings up the idea. They each have their buddys pockets to fill. Now its the dems turn to protect their buddies.

If the Republicans were in charge of Congress and the White House and Democrats brought up HR 1207 it would have been Repubs who flip flopped not democrats.

Vote the bums out!

"The following U.S. representatives co-sponsored H.R.1207 but later flip-flopped, voting against the motion to recommit the full Fed audit to the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2009:"

Switched to 'Nay' after co-sponsoring H.R.1207

Adler, John (D-N.J.)
Altmire, Jason (D-Pa.)
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Baird, Brian (D-Wash.)
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:49 AM
 
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Only recently.

Tells you who is actually listening to the citizens.
I would agree it's only recently. In 2008 there were many Republicans who voted for TARP and other bailouts. Bush and McCain were on the same exact side as Obama and 99.9% of Dems when it came to spending and bailouts. At that point we had no choice, the two parties were more alike than different. Since then I have been very pleased at how the Republicans in congress have firmly rejected new spending and bailout bills. Finally they are living up to being the "Party of No". I would prefer them to be the party of HELL NO! They have moved in that direction and I credit the tea party inluence. Now we finally have a choice. Two parties with completely different visions.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Yeah - One looking foward - Dems and one looking out the other end - Repubs.
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Old 08-23-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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the reason why they vote differently is to assure the american public that they are direct opposites of one another.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:45 PM
 
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How do you not have a choice? Every major election has a multitude of candidates from a variety of parties to choose from. No one's forcing anyone to vote for a Democrat or a Republican.

In Nevada, there is a "none of the above" option in every election. If people were so dissatisfied with the candidates to choose from, "None of the above" would surely win at least once in a while, wouldn't it?
You are right, but the vote wouldn't technically count, now would it? So what's the point of voting for none of the above?
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:49 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Antredd, great post.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:56 PM
 
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Antredd, great post.
Plus one!
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