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Old 08-25-2010, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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And we have deflection.
No, the deflection is this thread. With our country in a horrible economic mess with no light at the end of the tunnel (because of DEMOCRATS), and the stupid supporters of this administration drinking the koolaid, up pops this thread that has absolutely no relevance. Keep on deflecting.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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7% stake must mean a lot more to you than it does to people who actually invest.
That 7% translates into the second largest shareholder in Newscorp. That's second only to Rupert Murdoch himself. And he does, indeed, have influence over Fox's content.

"Fox News covered riots in Paris under a banner saying "Muslim riots." Alwaleed allegedly called Murdoch and had him change the banner to say "Civil riots." Investigative journalist Joseph Trento also reported that a comment he recently made on a Fox Network morning news show, Fox and Friends, about Saudi Arabian money still financing Al Qaeda, was edited out of the show. Trento also reports that Alwaleed "has personally donated huge amounts of money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers." In a rare interview with Fox News' Neil Cavuto in January, AlWaleed explained his personal reasons for seeking influence in American politics: the U.S. buys Saudi Arabia's oil, and the bulk of his country's gross domestic product (GDP) comes from oil. Fox News reliably broadcasts misinformation on clean energy, and aggressively fights efforts to move America away from being dependent on a fossil fuels."

http://www.prwatch.org/node/8906 (broken link)

7% does "mean a lot".
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Again, according to the FOX own logic, this funding connection makes the mosque EVIL. So, now that we know FOX is funded by the same guy, then does that mean:

1. FOX as evil as the mosque builders?

2. FOX "guilt by association" logic is fueled by political agenda, and is flawed?
3. Both of the above.
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Old 08-25-2010, 02:12 PM
 
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No, the deflection is this thread. With our country in a horrible economic mess with no light at the end of the tunnel (because of DEMOCRATS), and the stupid supporters of this administration drinking the koolaid, up pops this thread that has absolutely no relevance. Keep on deflecting.
The thread is irrelevant, yet you decide to post in it. Mm-hmm.

Now, if you were to argue that the debate about converting a Burlington Coat Factory to a Muslim culture center is a fabricated controversy designed to act as wedge issue, we could probably agree. There are far more important matters that should dominate the news cycle.

But as I've often decried, most American newsmedia no longer sell news to the public, they sell audiences to advertisers. And economy is hard, complex and boring stuff, whereas this speaks directly to the emotions in the reactionary, neophobe and xenophobe segment that Fox targets so competently.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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The CNN/Opinion Research survey showed that 68 percent oppose the plan to build the mosque, compared to 29 percent who favor it.
Poll: Public strongly opposes Ground Zero mosque - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

Continually on the wrong side... Using the childish logic of the posters in here 68% of America Thinks this is a "evil mosque".

In fact the only debate from logical people that I've seen is the location is wrong, not if they have a right to do it.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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That 7% translates into the second largest shareholder in Newscorp. That's second only to Rupert Murdoch himself. And he does, indeed, have influence over Fox's content.

"Fox News covered riots in Paris under a banner saying "Muslim riots." Alwaleed allegedly called Murdoch and had him change the banner to say "Civil riots." Investigative journalist Joseph Trento also reported that a comment he recently made on a Fox Network morning news show, Fox and Friends, about Saudi Arabian money still financing Al Qaeda, was edited out of the show. Trento also reports that Alwaleed "has personally donated huge amounts of money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers." In a rare interview with Fox News' Neil Cavuto in January, AlWaleed explained his personal reasons for seeking influence in American politics: the U.S. buys Saudi Arabia's oil, and the bulk of his country's gross domestic product (GDP) comes from oil. Fox News reliably broadcasts misinformation on clean energy, and aggressively fights efforts to move America away from being dependent on a fossil fuels."

Saudi Prince, Now Part Owner of Murdoch's News Corp., Influences Fox News | Center for Media and Democracy (http://www.prwatch.org/node/8906 - broken link)

7% does "mean a lot". 3. Both of the above.
No it doesn't. It means nothing in terms of policy or what direction the company takes. You really ought to learn what voting shares are...
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:33 PM
 
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The thread is irrelevant, yet you decide to post in it. Mm-hmm.

Now, if you were to argue that the debate about converting a Burlington Coat Factory to a Muslim culture center is a fabricated controversy designed to act as wedge issue, we could probably agree. There are far more important matters that should dominate the news cycle.

But as I've often decried, most American newsmedia no longer sell news to the public, they sell audiences to advertisers. And economy is hard, complex and boring stuff, whereas this speaks directly to the emotions in the reactionary, neophobe and xenophobe segment that Fox targets so competently.
Like 68% of the country?
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:35 PM
 
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The company is publicly listed in the Saudi Stock Exchange but only 6% of the shares are public, the rest is privately owned with the majority stakeholder, Prince Alwaleed holding 94% shares.

Its international investments include (or have included)
Kingdom Holding Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:37 PM
 
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Did anyone happen to see Neil Cavuto's interview with Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud?
No. Do you have a link for it?
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:56 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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No. Do you have a link for it?
This is the moment of Zen from the Daily show site showing that there was an interview:
Moment of Zen - Prince Alwaleed bin Talal on Fox News - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 08/23/2010 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

But I'll be darned if I can find the actual interview itself anywhere.
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Old 08-25-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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what do you expect. its fox.

its not actual news. most reasonable people can conclude that.
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