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The Turkish government is set to take Iran out of its official list of 'countries considered threats to national security.' But what does this really mean? Is it yet another Islamist scheme?
And given that the US has been providing bombs and coordinates to Turkey to bomb our allies the Kurds in nothern Iraq so that Turkey will prevail over Iran, who is also bombing them, does this mean we will stop that now?
And given that the US has been providing bombs and coordinates to Turkey to bomb our allies the Kurds in nothern Iraq so that Turkey will prevail over Iran, who is also bombing them, does this mean we will stop that now?
Turkey is also taking Greece, Iraq, and Russia off their list as countries that are “threats to national security”.
Additionally, the relationship between Turkey and US/Israel stems from the flotilla attack, where Israel attacked and killed humanitarian activists who were both citizens of Turkey and America.
Israel refused to apology and the US supported Israel's "right" to kill humanitarian activists. If the US and Israel didn't take such a hard-lined stance and resorted to better diplomacy, then tension between these two life-long allies would not be so strained.
At this time the only thing the United States can do is bluster. We shot our wad on a needless war in Iraq. We have neither the military capability, the will of the American people, or the support of the international community to wage a war with Iran.
Turkey is also taking Greece, Iraq, and Russia off their list as countries that are “threats to national security”.
Additionally, the relationship between Turkey and US/Israel stems from the flotilla attack, where Israel attacked and killed humanitarian activists who were both citizens of Turkey and America.
Israel refused to apology and the US supported Israel's "right" to kill humanitarian activists. If the US and Israel didn't take such a hard-lined stance and resorted to better diplomacy, then tension between these two life-long allies would not be so strained.
OK, the BS is flying. "Humanitarian activists"??? They were a mob of Islamic radicals including some yearning to be "martyrs".
The BBC, certainly not a pro-Israel organization, after an extensive investigation, aired a program presenting evidence of what really happened on that Turkish ship:
"the program concluded that the main aim of the activists had not been to bring humanitarian aid to Gaza, but rather to orchestrate a political act designed to put pressure on Israel and the international community.
The program also concluded that the Israeli commandos encountered a violent, premeditated attack by a hardcore group of activists organized by IHH members." BBC
OK, the BS is flying. "Humanitarian activists"??? They were a mob of Islamic radicals including some yearning to be "martyrs".
The BBC, certainly not a pro-Israel organization, after an extensive investigation, aired a program presenting evidence of what really happened on that Turkish ship:
"the program concluded that the main aim of the activists had not been to bring humanitarian aid to Gaza, but rather to orchestrate a political act designed to put pressure on Israel and the international community.
The program also concluded that the Israeli commandos encountered a violent, premeditated attack by a hardcore group of activists organized by IHH members."
I see that you didn't even watch your own videos. The programs clearly states that who attacked first remains unresolved. Additionally, the program relies only on Israel's official story. It was not a practice in unbiased reporting.
These Islamic radicals that you speak were all released. Why would Israel release Islamic radicals? Additionally, Israel boarded this flotilla on international waters during the night, even though they knew about the flotilla for a week.
Nine people died in the IDF's so-callled "self defense", exhibiting Israel's use of disproportionate force.
Nonetheless, this thread is not a topic on the flotilla, but how Israel handled it which has further isolated from the international community while creating much tensions between their life-long ally; Turkey.
Since Israel and myopic supporters like yourself has taken the "f-you" approach to diplomacy with Turkey it has strained their relationships. Of course the US, Israel, and people like yourself only see the world in black and white. The incidents following this debacle has led to the conclusion that Israel cannot do no wrong and Turkey is now a potential Axis of Evil.
However, Israel has only furthered isolated themselves, which is bad diplomacy and not a program that will lead to long term stability and peace.
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