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Old 08-28-2010, 07:49 PM
 
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Why don't you ask Sarah Palin a Tea Party darling? While she was advocating Dr. Laura's First Amendment rights she did not say anything about her choice to use the "N" word. While I'm an advocate for every American's First Amendment rights. Dr. Laura's language was at the very least rude and at the most highly offending to many especially Black Americans.

What comes out of incidents like these is not only did Sarah Palin not speak out in any way to say she doesn't condone racially offensive language, nobody else in the Tea Party or the Conservative movement of any note spoke out either. Black Americans got the message loud and clear.

It's pretty obvious that the people that don't give a damn about racism in this country are in your corner.
So you feel the actions or inactions of 2 people are sufficient to condemn the entire Tea Party.

I've posted listings of numerous notable Democrats that were known Klansmen. You have not condemned them for their actions. By your reasoning that makes the entire Democrat party racist.

As I've said before there are racists in every group. It's an inescapable fact of life. No thinking person would allow the actions or comments of a miniscule percentage of a group to color their perception of the entire group.

The constant attempts to label everything a racial issue are tiresome. They point to an inability to construct a decent argument supporting your position.

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Old 08-28-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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OHHHH!

You mean the people who successfully organized a National Presidential Election campaign, got the word out to as many people as they could and convinced a majority of Americans that their ideas were the best.

Obama did not organize a coup...he simply won a fair and free election.

The progress-a-phobes are starting to sound like the Al Gore supporters in 2000!
No, President Obama did not win of the election alone, the biased media who did not report on anything negative about the man, did it for him. Oprah did it for him. Steven Spielberg did it. The media bowed at the man, elevetated him to a super being and neglected their duty to do background checks. I only wish CBS went through as much effort to find out the facts as Dan Rather did on Bush's military service. How many people in Obaman's circle had to quit, or be let go because of their radical positions? They were exposed by people who made the effort to investigate, something the responsible MSM should have done.

The MSM is also to blame for our country's current economic state, neglecting to report on the irresponsible policies, made by unelected officials, most whom never had real leadership experience.

Everyone laughed at those who pointed out the President's Socialist mentality, namely Hannity. I don't even care for the barking Chihuahua Hannity myself, but, he was right, now people see, but it's too late, time cannot be undone. Put it simply, knowning what we now know, would he have been voted into office? I don't think he would have, be honest. President Bush may have been dumb on some issues, but President Obams is ignorant on all issues.
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Old 08-28-2010, 08:05 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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From America-hating Marxist liberals who are doing everything in their power to undermine this country and divide and destroy its people, it's laws, it's culture, and it's history.

Could not have said it any better.

Anti American left wing hacks who want to destroy this country and those people who worked so hard and building the greatest country ever.

We the people are not going to allow it to happen.

Starting with the worst Presidunce in our history and of course the worst congress ever, we need to clean house and fire every single stinking liberal.

Liberalism will be gone from America soon.

Only 20% call themselves liberal, down from 24% when the dunce Obama took office.

Get used to it, the American hating liberals are about to get the axe.
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Old 08-28-2010, 08:12 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Yeah, pretty vague.

/sarcasm
you're right, is was astonishingly vague. that's why the 'take back America' rallies of 2006 and 2007, hosted and attended by democrats, are the perfect answer to your question, as uncomfortable as that seems to make you..

btw, who do you suppose these guys want to take their country back from:



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Old 08-28-2010, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Greensboro
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Teabaggers can't accept the reality that America’s racial profile will no longer reflect their own. This is played out through the birthers and the reparations conspiracy theories and the Nazi imagery at teaparty rallies. The teaparty and the GOP decided their survival in America’s new multiracial reality depends upon a very old playbook: pursue narrow financial and political gain by exploiting the justified anxieties of working-class whites.

It's a repeat of the Nixon "Southern strategy,” when it consolidated regional power by stoking reactionary fear of the civil rights movement.

Martin Luther King summed up the strategy succinctly stating “The Southern aristocracy took the world and gave the poor white man Jim Crow,” he explained, summing up the region’s history in a sentence. “And when his wrinkled stomach cried out for the food that his empty pockets could not provide, he ate Jim Crow, a psychological bird that told him that no matter how bad off he was, at least he was a white man, better than a black man.”
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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The media didn't make him out to be a terrible president because he did that all by himself.

I agree, he did it all by himself.

He turned into a liberal on spending and after the dems took control of congress you seen what happen to America.

The dem congress put us into a recession.
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:52 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Could not have said it any better.

Anti American left wing hacks who want to destroy this country and those people who worked so hard and building the greatest country ever.

We the people are not going to allow it to happen.

Starting with the worst Presidunce in our history and of course the worst congress ever, we need to clean house and fire every single stinking liberal.

Liberalism will be gone from America soon.

Only 20% call themselves liberal, down from 24% when the dunce Obama took office.

Get used to it, the American hating liberals are about to get the axe.
You know what other group is real conservative,the Tealiban.
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Old 08-28-2010, 09:54 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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If an election is held and your candidate loses then does it make sense for you to wish that the "country" be retrieved, so to speak, from...I don't know exactly.

You lost the election; is the winning side now the enemy from whom you wish to extract ownership of the nation?

I don't get it.

By the way, where were these rallies during the Bush Administration.

Was George W. Bush a champion of liberty?
Oh boy........you know who.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:22 PM
 
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So you feel the actions or inactions of 2 people are sufficient to condemn the entire Tea Party.

I've posted listings of numerous notable Democrats that were known Klansmen. You have not condemned them for their actions. By your reasoning that makes the entire Democrat party racist.

As I've said before there are racists in every group. It's an inescapable fact of life. No thinking person would allow the actions or comments of a miniscule percentage of a group to color their perception of the entire group.

The constant attempts to label everything a racial issue are tiresome. They point to an inability to construct a decent argument supporting your position.
I'll gladly admit that Southern Democrats and others like Senator Robert Byrd have a shameful history in terms of their racist beliefs. O.K. they are racist and they deserve condemnation. There, feel better?

But this thread isn't about Democrats or anybody else that is racist. It's about the Tea Party and their supporters. The fact there are racist in every group doesn't make racism acceptable by ANY GROUP. Black Americans professing racism are just as bad as White Americans professing racism against other people. Racism simply is not acceptable in any way and any form by anybody.

I'll tell you a story. I have a good friend. He's a Black American. When the Tea Party originally surfaced in North Texas he was totally on board and did things to support the Tea Party and was actively involved. As the Tea Party grew in 2009 he was told his support was no longer wanted, welcome or needed. He attended Tea Party a gathering and was made to feel unwelcome and they made it clear it was because he was a Black American.

The fact that the Tea Party doesn't speak out against remarks that are at the least racially insensitive means at least tacitly the Tea Party and their supporters on some level find these remarks acceptable. If the Tea Party was serious about making America a better place for ALL Americans they would be more outspoken about racism and make it known it's not tolerable in its organization. I don't see that the being part of the Tea Party agenda. That's really a shame because I'd think more people would support the Tea Party if it made a serious effort to unite all Americans in their cause.
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Old 08-28-2010, 10:30 PM
 
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I'll gladly admit that Southern Democrats and others like Senator Robert Byrd have a shameful history in terms of their racist beliefs. O.K. they are racist and they deserve condemnation. There, feel better?

But this thread isn't about Democrats or anybody else that is racist. It's about the Tea Party and their supporters. The fact there are racist in every group doesn't make racism acceptable by ANY GROUP. Black Americans professing racism are just as bad as White Americans professing racism against other people. Racism simply is not acceptable in any way and any form by anybody.

I'll tell you a story. I have a good friend. He's a Black American. When the Tea Party originally surfaced in North Texas he was totally on board and did things to support the Tea Party and was actively involved. As the Tea Party grew in 2009 he was told his support was no longer wanted, welcome or needed. He attended Tea Party a gathering and was made to feel unwelcome and they made it clear it was because he was a Black American.

The fact that the Tea Party doesn't speak out against remarks that are at the least racially insensitive means at least tacitly the Tea Party and their supporters on some level find these remarks acceptable. If the Tea Party was serious about making America a better place for ALL Americans they would be more outspoken about racism and make it known it's not tolerable in its organization. I don't see that the being part of the Tea Party agenda. That's really a shame because I'd think more people would support the Tea Party if it made a serious effort to unite all Americans in their cause.
What happened to your friend was wrong. I'd like to think it was an isolated incident but have no way of knowing if that's true. I do know there are a number of Black members of the Tea Party and from what I've seen they seem to be well accepted.

For whatever it's worth everyone I know that's associated with the Tea Party would speak out against racism.
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