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Old 08-30-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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And they will be trying to force Sharia into our legal system, probably with more than just a little success.
I agree. They may very well try to do that. That is why it is IMPORTANT that the United States remain a Constitutional SECULAR country in which the wall between church and state is long and thick.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Will it be others' business when they try to force Sharia on our nation? I guess not because Christians were defeated by about 100 years of secularist teaching and thinking so maybe you guys can defeat them, however. they have a tendency to use force to use their system on others. Are you ready for that?
Anytime their religion spills outside their homes and Mosque, I am ready to force them back. I do not cut them any slack. When nutty Christians try the same thing, I am ready to force them back too. If that means I have to give up a day off to escort women into the abortion clinic or fight their attempts to put prayer and "Creation Science" in my kid's classrooms, I will. And if the Muslims try it, they will meet the same result. But I am not going to tell any religion where and where not they can build a church and worship whatever God they believe in.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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There are a few things worth fighting for.
'Free societies don't last long'--so sayeth the Talkmaster.

I'm afraid I have listened to 'Angry American'/Toby Keith too many times and if there is no other way then 'Let's Roll'...etc--Born on 911.


YouTube - Toby Keith- Courtesy Of the Red white and blue(Lyrics)
Honestly you need to quit listening to Idiot Boortz. He is like a spoiled brat on the radio screaming and crying if things don't go his way, threatening to "leave the country" if things don't go his way (I would happily buy the man a one way ticket) and calling people- even the President- childish names. The FACTS are not something you will hear from him. He cannot debate anybody with a brain which is why he hangs up on every caller that disagrees with him. He hung up on me too a few years ago.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Zoning disputes, vandalism, arson - what's the difference?
What's you point?

Investigators rule arson in Temple church fire - News 8
Temple investigators have ruled the cause of the Temple First Baptist Church fire as arson

GUILTY VERDICT IN TEMPLE ARSON; RAMSI UTHMAN IS CONVICTED OF HATE CRIMES.(Local) - The Post-Standard (Syracuse, NY)
Ramsi Uthman showed no reaction Monday as an Onondaga County Court jury found him guilty of setting fire to Temple Beth El three years ago as a hate crime against the Jewish members of the congregation.

Sikh Temple Fire: A Case of Arson (http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/93642249.html - broken link)
Investigators say the fire that destroyed a Sikh temple in Reno Monday night may have been set to cover up another crime.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Why do I keep seeing the words, "general public" in your post? Is a small minority the general public? Somehow I think the general public of Murfreesboro would not be the Muslims.
Isn't that a suburb of Nashville/Davidson? I would assume in a city the size of Nashville there would be a fair number of Muslims.
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:53 AM
 
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Honestly you need to quit listening to Idiot Boortz. He is like a spoiled brat on the radio screaming and crying if things don't go his way, threatening to "leave the country" if things don't go his way (I would happily buy the man a one way ticket) and calling people- even the President- childish names. The FACTS are not something you will hear from him. He cannot debate anybody with a brain which is why he hangs up on every caller that disagrees with him. He hung up on me too a few years ago.
I rarely listen to him anymore.

My love for Toby Keith --well, I come from a long line of Rednecks/like Zell Miller. 'GA Dems'. Thus my lack of factual information on many topics--highly emotional people--stubborn, too.

lol--My relatives think I am a 'Dixie Chick'--wildly liberal--living in Atlanta.

I guess I must be some kind of Libertarian--I will say what I think. Who knows, who knows. Child of the 60's--
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:58 AM
 
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This is the perfect example of fear, and ignorance, breeding hate and irrationality.

Many Muslim families have lived in this country as law abiding citizens peacefully going about their daily lives for generations. In fact I'd gather that a large number of Americans never paid them a second thought until 9/11/2001.

If time has taught us anything is that the most shameful chapters in history are all marked by the same thing; hate, ignorance, fear and bigotry. At one time we interned Japanese-Americans in concentration like camps at the same time Japanese-American soldiers were serving and dying for this country in World War II. We look back on the treatment of those individuals now with shame and regret. The only people that feel differently have already lost their souls to hatred and ignorance.

Let's NOT write another shameful chapter in American history. This nation was built on the ideals embodied in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. The Constitution has progressed as our nation has progressed. Do we really as Americans want to regress and take out parts of the Constitution based on a certain religion? Who gets to decide that and which portion of the population gets excluded next and for what reason? And if we keep doing this will we even live in America anymore but some sort of religiously or racially based distortion driven by whatever people hate or fear next?

Is that the America YOU want to live in?

I could almost buy that, except the CONS and the Dec of IND have been so violated by the Feds i have to say give it back first.

I have had all of taken that I will be moved to give. I will not step another inch back.

I believe this will show come Nov. If I am wrong then we are in the same problem that caused Rome to fall, and we will fall for the same reasons from with in.

In the so far 2 years of obama we have gone back to pre 1930 racism levels, and headed back deeper and to much uglier levels each day and with crooks like Sharpton and his ilk pushing for it. The outcome is certain to be ugly.

This cult of muslims if you read their book is 1,000 years late and full of pain. I will never bend a knee to it. You say i hate, but just go check that book out .

I find it ammusing that those who think that book is all peace and good time will suffer for it more than I will. I am not PC never was, never will be, and I won't suffer a bit of that BS either.

I might be the last of a dying breed of men, and I still have Freedom, and know Security is no replacement for it. When it comes right down to them, and them, and me there is gonna be a fight. Who wins i won't know till that fight is over.

But NO 3rd world cult, or 3rd world order is ever going to be any part of my life style.

You really don't need to try hard to understand my thinking either.

There have been terroist of this faith for better than 1,000 years, I still recall the picture in my mind of a cripple being pushed off a cruise ship in the Med Sea, back in the 70's. I recall a lot of planes blown from the sky with civilians. It is clear who is and who isn't the enemy, and if you prefer to rub elbows with them it's fine by me, but i won't weep with your wife when they hack off your head with the dullest knife they can find.

If it quaks like a duck and it walks like a duck it ain't a kangaroo.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Oh gee what ashame.... My heart just bleeds.

I was sent this and didn't wrote it, but i wish I did.
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I copied this from a motorcycle site that I frequent. I like it.

If it is true that building a Mosque near Gound Zero is to promote tolerance then I propose to test that tolerance by announcing the opening of a gay nightclub next door to the mosque. I suggest two names for the club to fit with the neighbor---"The Turban Cowboy", and "You Mecca Me Hot". Either should be a good test of the tolerance of its next door members.

Later, I would announce a specialty butcher shop aptly named "The Hog-Wild World of Pork," to be located on the opposite side of the mosque. Hams, Chops, and Loins to be displayed in the windows.

Across the street, facing the mosque, there would be women's specialty store that only sells and displays thongs, bras, and other ladies lingerie worn by live models in the windows and entrance doors. The shop would have a full range of magazines to include Playboy, Hustler and others to serve the test.

This would not, mind you, and I mean would not, be a provocation. It would merely be a means to test the tolerance of those who are proposing the mosque as a tribute to their honest answers about the specific mosque location.
"Ideas" like this serve mainly to prove that the authors have never been to New York City.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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I got no idea who the author(s) are/were. I just like it.

I don't like PC America and don't play well with others.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:06 AM
 
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I could almost buy that, except the CONS and the Dec of IND have been so violated by the Feds i have to say give it back first.

I have had all of taken that I will be moved to give. I will not step another inch back.

I believe this will show come Nov. If I am wrong then we are in the same problem that caused Rome to fall, and we will fall for the same reasons from with in.

In the so far 2 years of obama we have gone back to pre 1930 racism levels, and headed back deeper and to much uglier levels each day and with crooks like Sharpton and his ilk pushing for it. The outcome is certain to be ugly.

This cult of muslims if you read their book is 1,000 years late and full of pain. I will never bend a knee to it. You say i hate, but just go check that book out .

I find it ammusing that those who think that book is all peace and good time will suffer for it more than I will. I am not PC never was, never will be, and I won't suffer a bit of that BS either.

I might be the last of a dying breed of men, and I still have Freedom, and know Security is no replacement for it. When it comes right down to them, and them, and me there is gonna be a fight. Who wins i won't know till that fight is over.

But NO 3rd world cult, or 3rd world order is ever going to be any part of my life style.

You really don't need to try hard to understand my thinking either.

There have been terroist of this faith for better than 1,000 years, I still recall the picture in my mind of a cripple being pushed off a cruise ship in the Med Sea, back in the 70's. I recall a lot of planes blown from the sky with civilians. It is clear who is and who isn't the enemy, and if you prefer to rub elbows with them it's fine by me, but i won't weep with your wife when they hack off your head with the dullest knife they can find.

If it quaks like a duck and it walks like a duck it ain't a kangaroo.
If I am wrong then we are in the same problem that caused Rome to fall, and we will fall for the same reasons from with in.

I always get a kick out of it when someone uses this line. My mother was saying this about the communists when I was a little girl. I'm 52 now. I guess it's always been applicable to the "group-of-the-moment-to-hate". I bet that "We are Rome and we will fall from within" line has been used somewhere against some group since shortly after Rome fell.
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