'I can't spend all of my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead' (house of representatives, speech)

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Cite the U.S. law that states that a child of a U.S. citizen parent and a non-U.S. citizen parent is a natural born citizen of the U.S.

There is no law that says that.

[HistorianDude]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

It elucidates the intended meaning of the 'natural born citizen' clause in the U.S. Constitution.

John Jay did not participate in the Framing of the Constitution at all. Hence it does no such thing.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

There are very specific requirements for any and all nations that grant citizenship jus sanguinis.

In my case, I met them for Italy.

So you say on an internet forum with no verifiable proof whatsoever.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

But since he offers no definition at all, he confirms nothing that you claim he confirms.

Are you claiming you do not comprehend John Jay's intent in suggesting the 'natural born citizen' clause?

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

So you say on an internet forum with no verifiable proof whatsoever.

So now, you resort to calling the poster a liar. That is against the TOS.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

There is no law that says that.

Exactly.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

John Jay did not participate in the Framing of the Constitution at all. Hence it does no such thing.

Hmmm... a specific phrase Jay suggested to Washington with very clear reasoning as to why it should be so makes it's way into the Constitution and you want us to believe that it's just a coincidence?

That's pretty lame.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Katiana

So now, you resort to calling the poster a liar. That is against the TOS.

I'm merely saying HD alleged something without providing proof thereof.

[ergohead]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

And here we see you doing exactly what birthers do. You are moving the goal posts having failed with the last set you put in place.

No. It is not more complicated than that. I meet the Vattel definition of natural born citizen perfectly, and I am a dual citizen at the same time.

QED: You are wrong. Either the Vattel definition is wrong, or the dual citizen argument is wrong, or both.


And we do.

My dual citizenship is valid.

Better give it up, or no one is going to vote for you for president.

The Italian, that is!

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Hmmm... a specific phrase Jay suggested to Washington with very clear reasoning as to why it should be so makes it's way into the Constitution and you want us to believe that it's just a coincidence?

a specific phrase that wasn't in de vattel's book till after the ratification of the constitution ( and the writing of john jay's letter ).

so you're saying that john jay was specifically referring to something that didn't exist ?