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Old 08-30-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Kristallnacht was an anti-Jewish pogrom in Nazi Germany that happened in 1938. In a coordinated attack on Jewish people and their property, 91 Jews were killed and 25,000 to 30,000 were arrested and placed in concentration camps. 267 synagogues were destroyed, and thousands of homes and businesses were ransacked.

With events like Fire at Mosque Site in Tennessee Spreads Fear - NYTimes.com happening, I wonder when this will happen in America, by "freedom loving, real Americans" toward Muslims, immigrants, or whoever the right-wing media paints as the scapegoat of the day.

The prospect is very worrisome.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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We all have reason to worry about this assault on freedom to worship. Governments are not the only thing t\that can destroy the right to worship freely. or not as we see fit as individuals.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Kristallnacht was an anti-Jewish pogrom in Nazi Germany that happened in 1938. In a coordinated attack on Jewish people and their property, 91 Jews were killed and 25,000 to 30,000 were arrested and placed in concentration camps. 267 synagogues were destroyed, and thousands of homes and businesses were ransacked.

With events like Fire at Mosque Site in Tennessee Spreads Fear - NYTimes.com happening, I wonder when this will happen in America, by "freedom loving, real Americans" toward Muslims, immigrants, or whoever the right-wing media paints as the scapegoat of the day.

The prospect is very worrisome.
Did you notice that the Tennessee police and the ATF said that one piece of equipment was burned and three others had been recipients of some kind of substance that could have burned them? Did you then notice that the blogger for the al Times said that four pieces of equipment had been burned? I ask these things since it appears to me that some people want both arson and terrorism to be involved when the law enforcement people don't see what they are saying.

I am only suggesting that there is a chance that the fire was set by someone of the Muslim community to make it look like vandalism or even terrorism.

Hey, I don't know, at all, but there is a serious chance that what I say is involved here.

I guess articles like this may be aimed at supporting the Muslims who all of a sudden are wanting to build all those places of worship all over the nation when we see all the things about them having places like that for 30 or more years so near where they want new ones. Just saying.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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American Nationalists' Krystallnacht, must we always rely on totally overwrought analogies based upon the history of the Nazi Party?

If some right wing cabal comes to power and burns down the capital, then blames Muslims for doing so in order to enact repressive legislation against Muslims, call me. Until then, let's keep the conversation grounded in rationality.

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Old 08-30-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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We all have reason to worry about this assault on freedom to worship. Governments are not the only thing t\that can destroy the right to worship freely. or not as we see fit as individuals.
Aren't some of us jumping at the chance to blame a bunch of Christians for this when there is nothing but conjecture to go on? brattpowered even inserted a German word into his thread title obviously wanting to point out that those nasty Christians are getting even more nasty with their "force".
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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American Nationalists' Krystallnacht, must we always rely on totally overwrought analogies based upon the history of the Nazi Party?

If some write wing cabal comes to power and burns down the capital, then blames Muslims for doing so in order to enact repressive legislation against Muslims, call me. Until then, let's keep the conversation grounded in rationality.
How about the World Trade Center? With repression against the whole population.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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How about the World Trade Center? With repression against the whole population.
How many of those 19 were not Muslims? I had thought all this time that all of them were.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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How many of those 19 were not Muslims? I had thought all this time that all of them were.

You obviously didn't count D*ck Cheney.
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:57 PM
 
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How about the World Trade Center? With repression against the whole population.
Again, are you seriously comparing even with the worst days of muslim round-ups following 9.11 and the Patriot Act at its worst with destruction and murder of Jews during Kristallnacht?
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Old 08-30-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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American Nationalists' Krystallnacht, must we always rely on totally overwrought analogies based upon the history of the Nazi Party?

If some write wing cabal comes to power and burns down the capital, then blames Muslims for doing so in order to enact repressive legislation against Muslims, call me. Until then, let's keep the conversation grounded in rationality.


no kidding. some of these doofi have apparently never heard of godwin's law.
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