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Old 09-04-2010, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Easy fix !


Also 90% of Congress voted for war and almost 90% of the public supported the war. Whether it was right or wrong we (Americans) wanted some blood and it was gonna happen and it did.
I remember this like it was yesterday.all of my conservative freinds were for the war and I stood alone. That day was the beginning of them turning into neo cons and Bush and {R} apologist and they never looked back and have not changed. I can relate to how Reagan felt when he penned " I did not leave the {D} party they left me " , change the {D} party to conservative and that is how I feel.

 
Old 09-04-2010, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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So we agree the Stimulus Act cost more then the Iraq war?

How's the 9% unemployment doing for all you hope and change fans?
9.6% actually. And we all need to remember, some people just plain stopped looking and have run out of unemployment. Some have stopped looking but doing side jobs under the table and many are underemployed.

Nita
 
Old 09-04-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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9.6% actually. And we all need to remember, some people just plain stopped looking and have run out of unemployment. Some have stopped looking but doing side jobs under the table and many are underemployed.

Nita
Shocking .... people would prefer to work under the table and avoid paying the upcoming tax increases to support BO's hope and change!

Can't Democrats come up with a new whine? This "Bush-Cheney did it" is getting mighty old.
 
Old 09-04-2010, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes, we knew Saddam had WMD because WE SOLD a lot of them to him, BUT the weapons inpectors, David Kay, Scott Ritter and Hans Blix all said the WMD had been destoyed. The 'policy' to invade Iraq was pushed by Cheney and PNAC but Clinton had enough sense to ignore them, unlike Bush.
How Did Iraq Get Its WMD? - We Sold Them To Saddam
and Hans Blix all said the WMD had been destoyed?????

"Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance -- not even today -- of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
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"The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.

13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
-----------------

"The recent inspection find in the private home of a scientist of a box of some 3,000 pages of documents, much of it relating to the laser enrichment of uranium support a concern that has long existed that documents might be distributed to the homes of private individuals. ...we cannot help but think that the case might not be isolated and that such placements of documents is deliberate to make discovery difficult and to seek to shield documents by placing them in private homes."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
---------------

"I have mentioned the issue of anthrax to the Council on previous occasions and I come back to it as it is an important one.

Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres of this biological warfare agent, which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction.

There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003




that doesnt sound like he was saying they were destroyed.......
 
Old 09-04-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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and Hans Blix all said the WMD had been destoyed?????

"Iraq appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance -- not even today -- of the disarmament, which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
-----------

"The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed.

13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1988, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tonnes."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
-----------------

"The recent inspection find in the private home of a scientist of a box of some 3,000 pages of documents, much of it relating to the laser enrichment of uranium support a concern that has long existed that documents might be distributed to the homes of private individuals. ...we cannot help but think that the case might not be isolated and that such placements of documents is deliberate to make discovery difficult and to seek to shield documents by placing them in private homes."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003
---------------

"I have mentioned the issue of anthrax to the Council on previous occasions and I come back to it as it is an important one.

Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres of this biological warfare agent, which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction.

There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared, and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date. It might still exist. Either it should be found and be destroyed under UNMOVIC supervision or else convincing evidence should be produced to show that it was, indeed, destroyed in 1991."

Dr. Hans Blix, Chief UN Weapons Inspector
Addressing the UN Security Council
January 27, 2003




that doesnt sound like he was saying they were destroyed.......

Please. please ... there is no room for facts in this post for Freefall ... only emotion and lies !
 
Old 09-05-2010, 12:26 AM
 
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The Repubs wasted a trillion dollars for useless wars, let the crooked bankers steal billions from the American people and sent bad paper around the world, and gave tax breaks to CEOs who sent all the jobs and manufacturing plants to India and China.

The idiots who voted for them last time are pumped up to do it again.

This time the rich will finish the jobs of destroying the middle class and there aint nothing Obama can do about it.

Oh yeah, blame Bush. He had a magic lever that he pulled that said "tank the economy". Presidents don't have any power over the economy. Read books........google what a book is....you'll be so amazed at what you find out.
 
Old 09-05-2010, 12:30 AM
 
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The Repubs wasted a trillion dollars for useless wars, let the crooked bankers steal billions from the American people and sent bad paper around the world, and gave tax breaks to CEOs who sent all the jobs and manufacturing plants to India and China.

The idiots who voted for them last time are pumped up to do it again.

This time the rich will finish the jobs of destroying the middle class and there aint nothing Obama can do about it.
Who signed NAFTA?
 
Old 09-05-2010, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by freefall View Post
The Repubs wasted a trillion dollars for useless wars, let the crooked bankers steal billions from the American people and sent bad paper around the world, and gave tax breaks to CEOs who sent all the jobs and manufacturing plants to India and China.

The idiots who voted for them last time are pumped up to do it again.

This time the rich will finish the jobs of destroying the middle class and there aint nothing Obama can do about it.
More like three trillion and rising, and long-term health care for better than 30,000 who were seriously wounded plus God only knows how much to deal with the mental problems created by the stress of multiple deployments.

My bet is better than ten trillion by the time the dust settles.

We could have long since paid for UHC for everyone in this country.
 
Old 09-05-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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We could have long since paid for UHC for everyone in this country.

could have LONG paid for uhc
???


you are kidding ????


uhc ( a total uhc 100%, )would cost some where between 1.5 trillion and 5 trillion A YEAR.........just look at medicaid (our 100% uhc for the poor), just last year it cost 300 billion to cover about 35 million people.....now take that to cover 310 million people (our population) and you see it could easily cost 3 trillion a year, and maybe a lot more if you consider the costliest demographics ogf the elderly
 
Old 09-05-2010, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Originally Posted by freefall View Post
The Repubs wasted a trillion dollars for useless wars, let the crooked bankers steal billions from the American people and sent bad paper around the world, and gave tax breaks to CEOs who sent all the jobs and manufacturing plants to India and China.

The idiots who voted for them last time are pumped up to do it again.

This time the rich will finish the jobs of destroying the middle class and there aint nothing Obama can do about it.
You might add your man Clinton as an accomplice to the deeds mentioned above, as long as we are delving back into history.
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