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Old 09-02-2010, 09:51 AM
 
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I think its funny how people love che and mao and then accuse others of being racist
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:53 AM
 
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Are you claiming che wasn't a racist. He didn't think blacks were the lowest form of people?
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:54 AM
 
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Why do Libs like che guevara

The same reason their parents liked Stalin. Because they like anyone, no matter how despicable, who touts a notion of equality, no matter how nebulous or hypocritical.

After all, it was not them who were summarilly executed. It was not their property which was stolen. It was not they who saw one dictatorship dumped only to have another put into place.

Guevara had Jesus-like long hair and wore combat fatigues. He presented a very romantic, iconic image and a good many people have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a new kind of slave: the Portuguese."

"The black is indolent and a dreamer; spending his meager wage on frivolity or drink; the European has a tradition of work and saving, which has pursued him as far as this corner of America and drives him to advance himself, even independently of his own individual aspirations."

"The episode upset us a little because the poor man, apart from being homosexual and a first-rate bore, had been very nice to us, giving us 10 soles each, bringing our total to 479 for me and 163 1/2 to Alberto."

"The first person we hit on was the mayor, someone called Cohen; we had heard a lot about him, that he was Jewish as far as money was concerned but a good sort."

"Mexicans are a band of illiterate Indians."
-che
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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Why do Libs like che guevara


Guevara had Jesus-like long hair and wore combat fatigues. He presented a very romantic, iconic image and a good many people have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
Good point. That prob does have much to do with it.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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"We're going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing." -Che Guevera

"The Negro is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent."- Che Guevara
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:58 AM
 
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Are you claiming che wasn't a racist. He didn't think blacks were the lowest form of people?
Well, besides the fact that he fought alongside and on behalf of the poorest of the poor -- many of whom who were black too -- Che, like you, was a product of his time.

Not sure how closely you've kept up with Cuba but it's the least racist place in the Caribbean these days, maybe in this hemisphere. As a result of the efforts since the 1959 revolution.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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Well, besides the fact that he fought alongside and on behalf of the poorest of the poor -- many of whom who were black too -- Che, like you, was a product of his time.

Not sure how closely you've kept up with Cuba but it's the least racist place in the Caribbean these days, maybe in this hemisphere. As a result of the efforts since the 1959 revolution.
So cubs is less racist than america is what your saying?
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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"We're going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for the revolution. By which I mean: nothing." -Che Guevera

"The Negro is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent."- Che Guevara
Been watching Glenn Beck, I see. I'm not calling you a gullible sucker, but.....

Real quickly, taking this from a forum elsewhere:

- Che pushed for racially integrating the schools in Cuba, years before they were racially integrated in the Southern United States.

- Che's friend and personal bodyguard was Harry "Pombo" Villegas, who was Afro-Cuban (black). Pombo accompanied Che to the Congo and to Bolivia, where he survived and now lives in Cuba. Of note, Pombo speaks glowingly of Guevara to this day

- When Che spoke before the U.N. in 1964 he spoke out in favor of black musician Paul Robeson, in support of slain black leader Patrice Lumumba (who he heralded as one of his heroes), against white segregation in the Southern U.S. (which still unfortunately existed), and against the white South African apartheid regime (long before it became the Western 'cause de jour').

- Che was also heralded by Malcolm X during this trip to NY and in contact with his associates to whom he sent a letter, and later on behalf of his actions in Africa - praised by Nelson Mandela and the Black Panther's Stokely Carmichael.

- When Guevara ventured to the Congo, he fought with a Cuban force of 100 Afro-Cubans (blacks) including those black Congolese fighters who he fought alongside against a force comprised partly of White South African mercenaries. This resembled the fight in Cuba, where Che's units were also made up of mostly mulattos and blacks.

- Later Guevara offered assistance to fight alongside the (black) FRELIMO in Mozambique, for their independence from the Portuguese.

- Lastly, in August 1961 (9 years after his "indolent" remark), Guevara attacked the U.S. for "discrimination against blacks, and outrages by the Ku Klux Klan", which matched his declarations in 1964 before the United Nations (12 years after his "indolent" remark), where Guevara denounced the United States policy towards their black population, stating:
"Those who kill their own children and discriminate daily against them because of the color of their skin; those who let the murderers of blacks remain free, protecting them, and furthermore punishing the black population because they demand their legitimate rights as free men — how can those who do this consider themselves guardians of freedom?"
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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Ernesto Guevara was one of the most handsome men I've ever seen pictures of. Maybe that's part of the attraction.

I suggest the movie, "Motorcycle Diaries". It's a darn good movie and non-political.

People should remember the era when he lived, and what he witnessed happening to the poor people and migrants by the ultra-rich corporation types. How anyone can defend the abuse and exploitation of human beings (yeah, even those who live in poverty) is beyond me. We're seeing it happen to illegal immigrants here in America. Factory farms, and meatpacking plants are abusing and exploiting those who have the least.

Communism may have sounded like the answer at the time, but it didn't work. At least, Guevara's heart seemed to be in the right place. The politics just didn't work.
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