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Old 01-12-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Agreed! I would prefer that all of these ancient made up religions go away. The moment these religions including Islam were created there was Violent disagreement on how they are practiced! It's all about power and religous Zealots are no different and possibly worse than any other type of Bigot.



"Many westerners would be surprised to learn that Christians, Jews, and Muslims live together peacefully in Iran" And I have some lake front property in Arizona to sell you!
educate yourself before you make yourself look stupid

But despite what appears to be a dwindling minority under constant threat of persecution, Iranian Jews say they live in relative freedom in the Islamic Republic, remain loyal to the land of their birth, and are striving to separate politics from religion.
They caution against comparing Iran's official and visceral opposition to the creation of Israel and Zionism with the regime's acceptance of Jews and Judaism itself.
"If you think Judaism and Zionism are one, it is like thinking Islam and the Taliban are the same, and they are not," says Ciamak Moresadegh, chairman of the Tehran Jewish Committee. "We have common problems with Iranian Muslims. If a war were to start, we would also be a target. When a missile lands, it does not ask if you are a Muslim or a Jew. It lands."
In Ahmadinejad's Iran, Jews still find a space / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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"Many westerners would be surprised to learn that Christians, Jews, and Muslims live together peacefully in Iran" And I have some lake front property in Arizona to sell you!


Arizona Lakes | Lake in Arizona | Canyon | Pleasant | Roosevelt | Apache | Saguaro | Mohave | Havasu
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: USA
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Touche, but you knew what I meant anyway.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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That's kind of hard to believe. She has, at least, made the same points in speeches that I have listened to. I've never heard her say that a Muslim man could marry a 1 year old, but I have read and heard her say many of the other things in the OP's post.
Here is her blog...
NonieDarwish.com

If You Convert You Die



By Nonie Darwish

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Very few people in the West know what is going on inside the Muslim world and what it portends for them. The fact is that through the dominant media, such as CNN, Americans are subjected to much of the same misinformation with regard to Islam that I grew up with inside the Muslim world. The result is that Americans are in the dark attempting to formulate their strategy of how to defend themselves against the threat of terror, domestic jihad and Sharia. While Americans get ridiculed for being “Islamophobes,” the Muslim world itself is undergoing a huge and painful awakening.
For instance, a prominent Egyptian lawyer and women’s rights activist, Nagla Al Imam, recently announced her conversion to Christianity in Cairo, Egypt. The announcement brought shock waves in and beyond Egypt. This is perhaps the first case ever of its kind, where a Muslim woman, who is also a Sharia expert, has openly challenged Islamic apostasy laws from within the Muslim world.
Ms. Al Imam’s incredible courage was on display in an internet chat room, where she announced that she is not afraid, will stand up for the human rights of apostates and refuses to leave her homeland, Egypt. This was immediately followed by attacks and calls (‘fatwas’) for death of the 36 year-old graduate of Al Azhar Islamic University.
Egyptian media not only reported the threat but also participated in the attacks. Ms. Al Imam was literally entrapped by a TV station ‘Al Mihwar’ with the pretext of inviting her for an interview. Upon arrival to the TV studio she was told the show she was to appear on was cancelled. She was then taken forcibly to a room where she was held against her will for hours inside the studio. She was assaulted, threatened and insulted by several people. She was able to escape, and went to her internet chat room telling the world what happened and said she will demand protection from the Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.
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"Sharia law is a legal system on the teachings of the Qur'an, the Sunna and the Hadith of Mohammed applied into the community as the legal basis for life," Jeff Hammond, with Bless Indonesia, said.
Hammond is a Christian who has lived and worked in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, for 35 years. He says Indonesian Christians are concerned about creeping sharia law, now in place in half of the country's 32 provinces.
"It's going from one province to another, it's not something that's happening all at once, but step by step," Hammond said.
Cruel and Usual Punishment
For example: even Christian school girls are forced to cover their heads in Padang province. Elsewhere in Indonesia, children attending public schools are required to learn the Qur'an.
In Indonesia's Bandeh Aceh province, shariah police make nightly patrols to ensure that unmarried or non-related couples are not seen together in public.
"Christians are very concerned, not only because of what is happening here in Indonesia, they also see reports that are coming from other countries," Hammond explained.
In Islamic nations like Somalia, devotion to Sharia law caused vigilantes to behead a 25-year old aid worker for converting from Islam to Christianity
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<H3 class="post-title entry-title">Teenage Girl in America Threatened with Death for Converting to Christianity
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Rifqa Bary, 17, said she was threatened by her family because she converted from Islam to Christianity. This is happening in AMERICA! See these articles and videos:

YouTube Video: Rifqa Bary

Robert Spencer on FrontPageMag.com: A Slow-Motion Honor Killing

Pamela Geller on Atlas Shrugs

Jihad Watch: Please help Rifqa Bary
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BTW...the snopes article was labeled "mixture", not false.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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If we are at war with Islam, why did Obama just sign the largest arms deal in history with Saudi Arabia, 60 billion dollars?
David Keyes: Why Is Obama Selling Arms To A Theocratic Dictatorship? | The New Republic
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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No religion that uses likes of Moses as a poster child as a man of God should preach about morals, much less "peace".
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: USA
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educate yourself before you make yourself look stupid
Not sure what point your trying to get across, but If you look at the history of the Middle East, every Islamic state has has killed, persecuted or exiled every other religion to the point of non-existance over the long term. This includes Jews, Christians, Kurds, and even other religions and peoples who were there long before Islam. Zoroastrianism and Assyrian also come to mind.

Here's just some the Jewish history in Iran, not just the 25k that are left in the country. The people that say the creation of Israel is responsable for the hardships of the Jewish people have only to look at Iran and other Middle Eastern countries histories to find the truth. They have been systamatically eliminated thoughout their history. Whats sad is these people all pre-date Islamic states.
Persian Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They try to say that America and the West is intolerant to Islam. The last I checked our Muslim population has done nothing but grown over our countries history. The same can not be said for any Islamic republic.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:33 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I knew I saw this before:

snopes.com: Joys of Muslim Women - Nonie Darwish

According to snopes, the purported author, Nonie Darwish, confirmed that she did not write this piece.
According to snopes it says that although she did not write it, it still CONFORMS to concepts about Islam that she has expressed in her own writings.

That's enough for me.

I wouldn't allow another Muslim in the USA and I would outlaw the religion as a cult.

Nobody can deny that they do honor killings and the lives of women are worthless next to a male. Males cannot make babies alone, and can do nothing without women - they still treat women as less than garbage.

Makes no sense in our modern age to allow the corrupt "so-called" religion to proliferate.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:01 PM
 
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A must see for people who want to learn about Islam.


Islam -What the West Needs to Know (full length) - YouTube
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Holiday, FL
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If we are at war with Islam, why did Obama just sign the largest arms deal in history with Saudi Arabia, 60 billion dollars?
David Keyes: Why Is Obama Selling Arms To A Theocratic Dictatorship? | The New Republic
That's easy...

After spending $7.8 trillion that we don't have, he needs to start reducing the red ink.
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