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Old 09-02-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Most Victorian-era houses were built without electricity.

depends...prior to 1890 yes...from 1890-1930 would be either open wire on metal cleats (not very safe) or the 'knot and tube' which can still be found in some period homes
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: FL
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^^^What you just cited happened in the 1990's that trend has greatly reversed in the past 10 years. Greatly.

People are upgrading insulation and windows, using more efficient appliances and hvac, purchasing/driving more efficient vehicles, taking "staycations", reducing the amount of "stuff" consumed, more recycling-repurposing conscience. Granted, much of these reductions are economically generated but saving green in the form of $$ includes conservation (being less wasteful).
I don't know, the SUV's that I see every day are much bigger and they are new or newer than 1990's.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:03 AM
 
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I don't know, the SUV's that I see every day are much bigger and they are new or newer than 1990's.
Maybe that is a regional thing. In my area the SUV's are newer (higher mph), many are hybrids, most large SUV's have been replaced by crossovers. I rarely see an SUV manufactured prior to 2002 on the road. Pick-ups are another matter but I'm in an area where people use trucks for work. Actually from what I am hearing the older diesel pickups got better gas mileage than some of the newer ones.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't know, the SUV's that I see every day are much bigger and they are new or newer than 1990's.
yes the SUV ITSELF may be bigger...but the engine and drivetrain are much more economical

big difference between a 350cid engine of 1980 with a carburator and a distributor, and a 305cid engine with electronic ignition/fuel injection
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:15 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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ok folks, these explosions are definitely eco-terrorism. You would have to be born in the last 5 minutes not to know this. How many coincidences have to happen before it is not a coincidence anymore? Let's see, this is the 4th oil accident since Obama stated he would allow drilling.

1. Transocean explosion
2. A tugboat supposedly hit a well head in the Gulf just after the Transocean explosion
3. The Kalamazoo river
4. Now this one


Wake the hell up people!!!!!! This is terrorism 100%!!
Wow, you sure like to jump to conclusions with no facts to back them up. In the case of the Kalamazoo River, for example, the oil leak was caused by a poorly maintained section of the pipe.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:18 AM
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most houses were much bigger 80 years ago
average victorian house...over 3000sf
average 4 square colonial (what I own).......nearly 4000sf

just because they built bungalows in the 40-s and 50's and people want to expand them, doesnt mean its just a thing of today
The question was 10 years ago, not 80 years ago.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I find this interesting I don't know if its an accident or on purpose.
Oh, let's just dream up wacky conspiracy theories, seems to keep many folks amused.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:21 AM
 
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The oil rig was closed... That didnt stop 13 people from being on board and being in danger.. LUCKILY, no one got hurt, but it just shows how ridiculous the moratorium is.

You can ignore this fact but this PROVES the conservatives were right.. Not liberals.. CLOSING the wells dont = safety..
If it was closed (I will read the facts for myself in a bit) then why would opening it make it safer? It would not. There would be more people on the rig and it would be in use and able to cause more damage. Common sense tells me that, sorry that you are not able to come to that obvious conclusion.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:25 AM
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^^^What you just cited happened in the 1990's that trend has greatly reversed in the past 10 years. Greatly.
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Please cite.

SUVs and other gas guzzlers only lost popularity after the prices of gasoline skyrocketed a few years ago. Prior to that, they were still extremely popular, and they've started to increase in popularity once again now that gasoline prices have backed off.

All new residential construction of single family homes that I have seen throughout my part of the country has been jumbo sized. Only very recently has the trend towards somewhat smaller homers taken hold (assuming you believe media reports...and we all know how that goes), although I have yet to see a single example of a newly constructed smaller home community. And I certainly have not, and probably never will, see any tear downs being replaced with something smaller than what was there.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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Yep. You can thank Thomas Edison for getting the USA off of whale oil as an energy source for lighting! He didn't need any government subsidy either.
I do not believe that the Victorians had computers, TV's, air conditioning, washers, dryers, dish washers, DVD players, stereos, video games, technology that needed charging, vacuum cleaners, hair blowers, electric garage doors, etc. So as horrible as the use of whale oil was from an ecological and humane standpoint, there was never a need for the amount of oil that we greedily demand nowadays.
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