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09-05-2010, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nayabone
Do the research, we won't always be here to lead you by the hand. It's nothing like the Republican proposal... But he sure fooled you...!!
Fortunately, most of us aren't so easily fooled.... Can you say the same...?
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So in other words, you don't know what the difference is either. |
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09-05-2010, 07:23 PM
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Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Any reason why the OP is linking something from Jan of 2009??
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09-05-2010, 07:31 PM
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Location: My little patch of Earth
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Because it's back in the news and democrats are attaching all kinds of changes and qualifiers to alter it. Then they'll pronounce it as a 'new' bill, and accuse Republicans of being against it.
Old Wiener can throw another hissy fit on the floor and make the minority party out to be anti business, anti labor, anti this, anti that. And claim 'they won't even back a bill they originated'!
He's very good at drama. Not much else though.
It's a bait and switch.
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09-05-2010, 07:38 PM
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Location: it depends
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Originally Posted by wrench409
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The devil is always in the details.
Did you trade in a junker a month too soon, last year? You missed out on the stimulus lottery.
Did you own your prior house for 59 months before you traded to a different house? You lost the stimulus lottery, too.
Did you hire a new employee in January this year? Another loser in the stimulus lottery.
Virtually every effort on the part of Washington to "help" us is a way to spray money around (almost at random) to bribe people into doing what they were going to do anyway. It is inherently unfair. When Washington talks about "targeted" spending, they are choosing winners and losers in an arbitrary way.
Stop the madness. Vote for the party of "NO more nonsense." And do everything you can to prevent Republicans from doing these same stupid things. |
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09-05-2010, 07:38 PM
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Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Originally Posted by wrench409
Because it's back in the news and democrats are attaching all kinds of changes and qualifiers to alter it. Then they'll pronounce it as a 'new' bill, and accuse Republicans of being against it.
Old Wiener can throw another hissy fit on the floor and make the minority party out to be anti business, anti labor, anti this, anti that. And claim 'they won't even back a bill they originated'!
He's very good at drama. Not much else though.
It's a bait and switch.
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So thats the reason you dig up an article from a year and a half ago??? huh?? Make sense... |
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09-05-2010, 07:45 PM
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Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by wrench409
Because it's back in the news and democrats are attaching all kinds of changes and qualifiers to alter it. Then they'll pronounce it as a 'new' bill, and accuse Republicans of being against it.
Old Wiener can throw another hissy fit on the floor and make the minority party out to be anti business, anti labor, anti this, anti that. And claim 'they won't even back a bill they originated'!
He's very good at drama. Not much else though.
It's a bait and switch.
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So what are the "changes and qualifiers to alter it" that the Democrats are attaching? I am guessing none of you even know. |
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09-05-2010, 07:50 PM
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Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by Smash255
Any reason why the OP is linking something from Jan of 2009??
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Good question! Here is a more recent link dated 9/4/2010.
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One idea that has received some support from Republicans is a three-month payroll tax holiday for all workers and businesses.
That would amount to a 6.2% tax cut for each, freeing up money that employers could use for new hiring and workers could use to boost consumer spending.
But White House aides indicated that Obama will not embrace the idea. It would cost the government about $120 billion in revenue if adopted for two months — and a staggering $700 billion if continued for a full year.
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Obama to propose new incentives to spur employment - Los Angeles Times |
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09-05-2010, 08:18 PM
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Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by wrench409
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A quote from your link:
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The White House declined to comment on whether economic advisers were considering such an idea, although an economist who consults with White House experts said that several officials are thinking through its implications.
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My previous post which cites a link much more recent states that Obama considered the payroll tax holiday and has dismissed it as an option.
There is nothing to the vague accusations attempted in this thread! |
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09-05-2010, 08:27 PM
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Location: Great State of Texas
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Why on earth do they think suspending payroll taxes for a mere 3 months will spur hiring ?
Just what the heck are they drinking in DC these days ?
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