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Old 09-05-2010, 08:10 PM
 
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There hasn't been a POTUS with the majorities in both houses that Obama has in our lifetime. Even with that, his radical agenda has had a difficult time passing.

Bush showed leadership. Obama is a petty little man who cannot handle being told no. Sort of like a spoiled brat.
Sentences 2-4 are what you use to assert sentence 5. I still am not convinced Obama's agenda is "radical" and I don't recall Bush showing "leadership" unless it is defined as blind aggression designed to make the defense contractors who paid to install him rich beyond measure. I have yet to see Obama act in any way other than a thoughtful rational manner (excepting of course the occasional self-deprecating remarks for the sake of humor). The man doesn't shoot from the hip like Bush did. Obama can at least answer questions put to him. Bush just talked nonsense until he got tired waiting for another media shill to ask the next deliberately innocuous question. Bush could not handle "NO" especially whenever science didn't back up his agenda. I still don't get the Obama hatred. I think it's there because simple minded people don't do well with complex causes and can only handle one focus at a time. It's easier to scapegoat, in other words.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:17 PM
 
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Sentences 2-4 are what you use to assert sentence 5. I still am not convinced Obama's agenda is "radical" and I don't recall Bush showing "leadership" unless it is defined as blind aggression designed to make the defense contractors who paid to install him rich beyond measure. I have yet to see Obama act in any way other than a thoughtful rational manner (excepting of course the occasional self-deprecating remarks for the sake of humor). The man doesn't shoot from the hip like Bush did. Obama can at least answer questions put to him. Bush just talked nonsense until he got tired waiting for another media shill to ask the next deliberately innocuous question. Bush could not handle "NO" especially whenever science didn't back up his agenda. I still don't get the Obama hatred. I think it's there because simple minded people don't do well with complex causes and can only handle one focus at a time. It's easier to scapegoat, in other words.
Nice leadership with the Gulf oil spill
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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George Bush is universally recognized as one of the worst presidents, if not the worst, in history. "Frighteningly ignorant" he has been described in the international cummunity and his presidency was an utter failure. Can you at least admit that you were wrong about this man being suitable to run the country?

If you can at least do that, then there's some sign that you are able to transcend the incompetency that he represented. As it stands now, your support for him and what he represented shows serious flaws in judgment and political instinct.
This is a funny rant, you construct a straw man of GW Bush, and if we disagree with your bundle of straw and vitriol, then we are idiots.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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I can't even begin to fathom the stupidity of people who supported Bush and still support him.
Yet the guy that you support has tripled "Bush's" deficit in less than two years and has a higher unemployment rate than it ever was under Bush; and we're the stupid ones?
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Yet the guy that you support has tripled "Bush's" deficit in less than two years and has a higher unemployment rate than it ever was under Bush; and we're the stupid ones?
Everything Bush did that the left claimed they hated, 0bama has tripled down on, and yet they continue to rant about BOOOOOSH.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:12 PM
 
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Yet the guy that you support has tripled "Bush's" deficit in less than two years and has a higher unemployment rate than it ever was under Bush; and we're the stupid ones?
I bet you think that Roosevelt was responsible for the Great Depression too?

Unemployment ticked up over 6% starting in August of 08, something that hadn't been done since 03. SO I guess that is Obama's fault.

As to Bush's deficit, what is most distressing is that while he raised the deficit to the highest level ever at that point, he also collected more revenue at anytime in our history. So while I commend him for collecting more revenue, him and the Republicans spent more money than any other president. If he just saved some of it and not spent it, we would be in a different situation.

The GAO stated in 1999, according to their projections, that if we continued with the Clinton economic policy the country would be debt free by 2006 and we would have a $10 trillion surplus by 2010.

So in simple terms...in 8 years he was like a family that earned $10,000 (something they never did) but they spent $100,000 on credit which their children will have to pay back.
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:15 PM
 
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Nice leadership with the Gulf oil spill
Just out of curiosity, what did you expect the president to do? Just wondering.
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Old 09-05-2010, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I bet you think that Roosevelt was responsible for the Great Depression too?

Unemployment ticked up over 6% starting in August of 08, something that hadn't been done since 03. SO I guess that is Obama's fault.

As to Bush's deficit, what is most distressing is that while he raised the deficit to the highest level ever at that point, he also collected more revenue at anytime in our history.
The democrats took over control of both houses of congress in the '06 elections, which coincided with the increased spending by Bush and the economic slide.

BTW, 0bama voted for every single spending bill Bush signed, along with the rest of the democrat leadership.

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So while I commend him for collecting more revenue, him and the Republicans spent more money than any other president. If he just saved some of it and not spent it, we would be in a different situation.
now, if we could just keep the congress from spending more money, then those tax cuts were working. but Bush spent like a democrat, and now the democrats are spending like drunken democrats.

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The GAO stated in 1999, according to their projections, that if we continued with the Clinton economic policy the country would be debt free by 2006 and we would have a $10 trillion surplus by 2010.
I understand the point you are making, but a surplus is just them collecting more in taxes then it takes to run the country, and if they did have a surplus of money, you can bet your ass they would spend it.

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So in simple terms...in 8 years he was like a family that earned $10,000 (something they never did) but they spent $100,000 on credit which their children will have to pay back.
Bush's overspending was something conservatives complained about bitterly, even McCain referred to him as spending like a drunken sailor.
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:42 AM
 
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Bush spends all the money and Obama gets blamed for the consequences

I'm getting a mental political cartoon picture of Obama leaning over a cliff grasping the American middle class thats gone over the edge, with both hands he's caught them in the nick of time and is in the process of saving them but standing behind him is a caricature of the Republican party with a big sledge hammer about to swing.
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:54 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Bush spends all the money and Obama gets blamed for the consequences
Bush spent the 3 x trillions that O has run up the rectum of America?

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I'm getting a mental political cartoon picture of Obama leaning over a cliff grasping the American middle class thats gone over the edge, with both hands he's caught them in the nick of time and is in the process of saving them but standing behind him is a caricature of the Republican party with a big sledge hammer about to swing.
Look closer, he ain't grabbing to help, he's actually waving them goodbye.....
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