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View Poll Results: Which of the following should be illegal?
Same-sex marriage 32 21.19%
Pornography 18 11.92%
Abortion 33 21.85%
None. All should be legal. 106 70.20%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 151. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-05-2010, 02:04 AM
 
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Keep your religion behind closed doors. How many times has history and sociology proved biblical scripture wrong or mythical? A lot.





Actually, history has verified the Bible, but you don't know about that because you don't know what you're looking for (see Book of Daniel).
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Old 09-05-2010, 02:25 AM
 
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In Africa the majority of people with AIDS are heterosexual. Please get your facts straight.


Someone say that wasn't the case?


Fight straw men on your own time, and save the pro-gay talking points.


"While most transmission of the virus in Africa is heterosexual, 19 recent studies of African men who have sex with men show that they have “considerably higher” infection rates than other adult men in their respective countries, said the authors, who were from Oxford University and research institutions in Ghana and Kenya."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/health/21glob.html
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Old 09-05-2010, 02:32 AM
 
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i think we have pushed tolerance about as far as we can.
i dont think they are going after people that have sexual urges they are going after the gay porno parade people.
as to cinema porno--- is a cheap substitute for the loveless lives so many lead.
abortion--- abortion at an early age is a woman's right over her body
abortion at 7 months is baby killing.


Is it her body when it's a male fetus?

A living biological entity with its own unique DNA is not "her body".

He or she is an individual and a person.

Attempting to arbitrarily assign personhood on a developing child at specific points of gestation is the sort of rationalizing that gave us T4.
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Old 09-05-2010, 02:42 AM
 
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Gay pride parades which are annual (one time out of the year) isn't illegal now is it? If the city permits it then there isn't a problem. If you don't like people wearing skimpy outfits then don't attend.


And trying to limit the revolting perverted open sexual displays common to these events isn't illegal either is it?
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Old 09-05-2010, 02:45 AM
 
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Freaking lame. Fasting for 12 hours? What a sacrifice. Give me an effing break. That's like a normal day for a busy person.

The only time when there is no "hope for a nation" is when a bunch of hate mongers get together to bash anyone who isn't exactly like themselves, instead of minding their own business. Personally I think the "heterosexual agenda" is just as despicable as the so-called "homosexual agenda." I don't appreciate heterosexuals bringing their relationship into open public, just as much as I don't appreciate homosexuals advertising their relationships. So what should we do? Ban everything and everyone just because my God and I don't like it? I don't feel that self-entitled to ask for this. Instead I will ignore everything around me that doesn't infringe on my personal rights, like a normal, sane, courteous person.

As for abortion issue - they should completely disallow welfare... then see how popular it is to bring unwanted kids into this world that you and your church can't financially support. Roe v. Wade. How long can you beat a dead horse.

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Old 09-05-2010, 02:49 AM
 
Location: southern california
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Is it her body when it's a male fetus?

A living biological entity with its own unique DNA is not "her body".

He or she is an individual and a person.

Attempting to arbitrarily assign personhood on a developing child at specific points of gestation is the sort of rationalizing that gave us T4.
its not arbitary, its just gut reaction on my part --was present when my twin nephews were born at 7 months. smash their heads and throw them in the trash bag? i dont think so.
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:26 AM
 
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its not arbitary, its just gut reaction on my part --was present when my twin nephews were born at 7 months. smash their heads and throw them in the trash bag? i dont think so.
7 months (28 weeks) is considered a premature baby. No doctor in their right mind would "abort" a 7 month old gestation, they would simply try to deliver early if the mom was in danger.

At ~21-26 weeks they *may* be viable outside the womb.
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:43 AM
 
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7 months (28 weeks) is considered a premature baby. No doctor in their right mind would "abort" a 7 month old gestation, they would simply try to deliver early if the mom was in danger.

At ~21-26 weeks they *may* be viable outside the womb.
fyi lots of 3rd trimester abortions friend. i agree about crazy but that does not stop it from happening.
a wealth of info on the internet on 3rd trimester and extremely late 2nd trimester abortion. you assertion that its all about danger to the mom is not supported by these links.
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/pbafact2.html
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Old 09-05-2010, 04:15 AM
 
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Not a lot! A very small percentage of late-term abortions take place. Some states ban it completely, others don't ban all. That information is bunk and doesn't even give specific numbers. Don't believe everything you read on websites especially if the website has an agenda that you want to believe. In the US it is 1.4% at or after 21 weeks. In 1997, the Guttmacher Institute estimated the number of abortions in the U.S. past 24 weeks to be 0.08%, or approximately 1,032 per year.

Now of those abortions there is no breakdown of how many were done for medical reasons. But given a birth defect rate of 3%, it would not be unfeasible to think that many of these were indeed performed for medical reasons.

That being said I do think 20 weeks is a wee bit late to get an abortion unless there were extenuating circumstances. I mean seriously, even if you were raped... would you wait until 20 weeks?

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Old 09-05-2010, 04:20 AM
 
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approximately 42 million abortions a year and you are saying they were all medically justified???
well i dont believe one post i have read on the internet tonight.
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