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you keep talking about early term abortions. i already excluded early pregnancies in my original post frame #7. i am talking about 7 month abortions, 3rd trimester & end of 2nd trimester, they are not "fetuses", they are children. i saw my twin nephews born a few weeks early. lots of kids that age are having their heads smashed and thrown in a trash bag and we are calling it a "medical procedure" performed on a "fetus".
way way too many. its murder-- stop justifying and defending it. the driving force behind these murders is gloria steinmen's assertion that a woman can do anything with her own body, absolutely anything. the assertion that a woman can do anything with her own body, is the driving assertion of the suicide bombings in bagdad.
there are not LOTS of late term abortions. late term abortions are performed by a small number of doctors and only on women who either have a medical issue themselves or something is terribly wrong with the baby. women and doctors do not preform late term abortions for funsies.
stop trying to make it sound like late term abortion is common place and done for frivolous reasons
there are not LOTS of late term abortions. late term abortions are performed by a small number of doctors and only on women who either have a medical issue themselves or something is terribly wrong with the baby. women and doctors do not preform late term abortions for funsies.
stop trying to make it sound like late term abortion is common place and done for frivolous reasons
No, by all means you cannot allow that inconvenient truth out of the bag. The truth is that late term abortions "on demand" do happen even though illegal; and, HHS Sec. Katherine Sebelius turned a blind eye to them during her time in office as Governor of Kansas.
No, by all means you cannot allow that inconvenient truth out of the bag. The truth is that late term abortions "on demand" do happen even though illegal; and, HHS Sec. Katherine Sebelius turned a blind eye to them during her time in office as Governor of Kansas.
complete and utter BS. if late term abortion was easy to get and could be gotten for "funsies" it would be all over the news. you would be able to call any clinic anywhere and make an appointment for one.. go ahead and call PPH and tell them you are 7 months pregnant and want an abortion see what you are told. people who believe otherwise are buying the propaganda spread by right to life groups to suit their political agenda.
But not without a lot of help from science and artificial means... they can't survive on just prayers to your god.
I may have read this wrong, and apologize if I did, but are you implying that a belief in God and the power of prayer is somehow incompatible with science? They all blend perfectly compatible and harmonious IMHO!
I may have read this wrong, and apologize if I did, but are you implying that a belief in God and the power of prayer is somehow incompatible with science? They all blend perfectly compatible and harmonious IMHO!
yes, I agree. But, when these so-called scientists continue to disregard, smear, and otherwise contradict God then this is what we get.
Why are christians so intolerant, why can't they be less critical and pray for those they
believe are sinners instead?
We are all "sinners". Or at least I know I am. I drink too much beer sometime, have a bit of a hot-temper when it comes to certain things, and I am for sure guilty of most of the Seven Deadly Sins (especially when I was younger and discovered the world of wine, women and song! )
Anyway, it is fundamental to the Christian belief system to acknowlege we are all imperfect and products of that old inconvenient truth that there is such a thing as "human nature" and it is not always pleasant. We Christians pray that we will improve our own lives. As well as pray for all our fellow human beings, believers or not.
What do you mean by "intolerant"? My own observation is that the least tolerant people in the world are those who fancy and present and proclaim themselves "tolerant."
It is also a bit telling to me that those who ridicule Christians by pointing out the obvious fact we all come short of being perfect, do, by implication, ironically and unconciously acknowledge that our belief system has a lot of validity to it. That is, they pay a tribute to Christianity by virtue of the fact they almost seem to hold Christians to a higher standard.
why do people care what others do? if someone is gay.. loves pornography, and wants an abortion.. why the hell do you care? worry about your own life.. not what others are doing. Their lives.. their bodies.. their choices...
spare us the "it's for the children" because it's not.. it's about cultural control and conformity to your beliefs and ideals.. again.. worry about your own family, reproductive practices, and sexuality.. in other words get a life
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in other words, you don't respect free speech. only speech in which you agree with. either agree with you, or shut your mouth. what a narrow minded world view. if gays want to protest prop 8, it's their right. if christians want to protest gay marriage, it's their right. sounds like you are the one who needs to get over it.
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why do people care what others do? if someone is gay.. loves pornography, and wants an abortion.. why the hell do you care? worry about your own life.. not what others are doing. Their lives.. their bodies.. their choices...
spare us the "it's for the children" because it's not.. it's about cultural control and conformity to your beliefs and ideals.. again.. worry about your own family, reproductive practices, and sexuality.. in other words get a life
in other words, you don't respect free speech. only speech in which you agree with. either agree with you, or shut your mouth. what a narrow minded world view. if gays want to protest prop 8, it's their right. if christians want to protest gay marriage, it's their right. sounds like you are the one who needs to get over it.
nope.. I'm gay.. and I'm not out protesting..
what's right will prevail, because I have faith in our constitution..
As for religious beliefs.. I think most of it is rubbish, but would I support keeping people from those beliefs and practicing it? absolutely not. Don't paint me with a brush so wide please..
I believe in live in let live... problem is.. people like to get up in everyone else's business. It's like being a mormon and trying to make coffee illegal for everyone.. just because you don't believe it's right.. doesn't mean you have the authority or the position to deny others access to it. don't like coffee.. don't drink it.. don't like pornography.. don't watch it.. buy it.. or support businesses that do.. don't like gay marriage.. don't get one.. don't like abortion.. don't get one...
so you tell me how that is narrow minded and disrespectful?
wake up to yourself
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