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Old 09-06-2010, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Sounds like the problem is lawyers. Good ole civil libility cropping up its ugly head.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Sounds like the problem is uniformity.



Which is a problem that you run into all over any given state over a lot and I mean a LOT of stuff. So, they will have to get with the program if it is passed.
OK I can go along with the "note from a parent" thing. I don't have a problem with that although I don't think it is really necessary. But I am not about to take a kid to a doctor so they can take a Tylenol or apply SPF before going outside. These people seem to get STUPIDER every year.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Parents should take their children for yearly checkups regardless. During these checkups, notes can easily be obtained without any additional expense. Same goes for the physicals required for kids to participate in school sports programs.

This thread is a non-issue.
If the kid is not sick, he or she does not need to see a doctor. He is not a car that needs a yearly maintenance schedule or the oil changed every 3000 miles. Doctors are expensive and busy with people who really ARE sick. If you take a healthy child to a doctor's office, God only knows what all the other kids in the waiting room who are wailing and coughing have that your child is exposed to. I never took mine unless they were sick or when one of them need a physical to play ball. Except for my 3rd youngest who had asthma, doctor visits were rare.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:16 PM
 
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If the kid is not sick, he or she does not need to see a doctor. He is not a car that needs a yearly maintenance schedule or the oil changed every 3000 miles. Doctors are expensive and busy with people who really ARE sick. If you take a healthy child to a doctor's office, God only knows what all the other kids in the waiting room who are wailing and coughing have that your child is exposed to. I never took mine unless they were sick or when one of them need a physical to play ball. Except for my 3rd youngest who had asthma, doctor visits were rare.
Actually. There are enough subtle problems that can be caught early through thorough yearly checkups that kids should be going in yearly. So should adults. Waiting until something goes wrong is going to be much more costly.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:24 PM
 
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I'd like to point out that Maryland is a thoroughly DEMOCRATIC State with a long history of liberal idiocy.

It's your ideology. Now you get to live with the consequences.
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Old 09-07-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I was actually shocked to find out that stupidity seems to be contagious. Now schools have went beyond requiring you to have a doctors note to have prescriptions. Now if your child sunburns and needs sun screen, you much take your child to a doctor to get a note so he or she can apply sunscreen when going outside for recess or Phys Ed. And stupid Americans wonder why medical cost are so high. When I was in school, we did not have any such non sense. You could carry asprin, caffine or any over the counter medication. And Copper Tone was not even an issue. What next? A prescription for chapstick?

Bill Would Legislate Maryland Students' Use of Sunscreen (washingtonpost.com)
Maybe the schools are acting like this for fear of parental litigation. One reason for high health care costs is the slip and fall lawyer lobby.

I always go back to this article i read in a Reader's Digest twenty years ago. The author wrote the article after noticing the heavy gauged, wax-coated cardboard box he was using had stenciled a warning next to the handhold cutouts that read "Warning, Not To Be Used As Handholds". Ii was an orange crate, and of course the cutouts were to be used as handholds to load the boxes on/off trucks... and then it hit him. Some idiot would leave the box out in the rain, load it up with 30 lbs of firewood, and when the firewood fell thru the rain-soaked cardboard box onto his bare foot, he would sue the box manufacturer for putting handholds in an unsafe box. All because our legal system does not take into account the common sense factor of a wet box - equals a weaker box, and hence unsafe to haul firewood.

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Old 09-07-2010, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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OK I can go along with the "note from a parent" thing. I don't have a problem with that although I don't think it is really necessary. But I am not about to take a kid to a doctor so they can take a Tylenol or apply SPF before going outside. These people seem to get STUPIDER every year.
The daycare forms that our office gets do ask about sunscreen in addition to many other things, e.g. height, weight, BP, etc. One signature takes care of it all. Specific meds do need a separate dr's sig. What if the child is allergic to Tylenol and a well-meaning teacher gives him/her some?

You don't have to take your kid to the doc to get these signatures. Most parents just mail or fax the forms in, or they bring them along at the annual physical. We also ask at the annual if they need any such forms, though some who think their kid will never go to daycare seem to enroll them the next week!
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:01 PM
 
Location: mancos
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this is what is known as dumbing down society. only a doctor can prescribe anything medical these days regardless of what common sense says.
that's mostly all doctors do anyway is prescribe so they get their kickbacks. half the nation is on drugs they dont need and the side effects are making them sicker and killing them. me I stay far away from them, and I aint paying no stinkin fine either
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:12 PM
 
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Parents should take their children for yearly checkups regardless. During these checkups, notes can easily be obtained without any additional expense. Same goes for the physicals required for kids to participate in school sports programs.

This thread is a non-issue.
OK, so which part of OTC do you not understand. Sunscreen is not a medically regulated substance. Nor does tylenol. Or band-aids. Also, since I am not a complete moron and use common sense I wouldn't even start to think that my child would need a perscription for something as innocuous as sunscreen.
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Old 09-07-2010, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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this is what is known as dumbing down society. only a doctor can prescribe anything medical these days regardless of what common sense says.
Agreed. Can't tell you how many people are wasting tax payer money coming to my ED asking for school notes for their kids who have the sniffles. When I was in school, my mom's note was good enough. Now you have to have a doctor's note. What a bunch of crap.
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