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Old 09-08-2010, 09:59 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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To indurain,again,your rights are dependent upon the whims of the masses.

Common good....hmmmm.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD.


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Old 09-08-2010, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Saturn
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No. If that was the case, then the rest of the world would ultimately not have fought a war against those very Nazis you keep talking about.
You're talking rubbish.

Your country didn't give a **** about the laws enacted in Germany between 1933-1941 : your lot were too busy selling armaments and profiteering from WW2 to get involved.
It was only when the Japanese dragged ye in to WW2 that you became involved.

otherwise you would have continued to profiteer.

So save the sanctimonius claptrap for your someone else.






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This is a country with hundreds of millions of people in it; of course there could be some crackpots somewhere who get a gun and turn violent. But that could happen in many places, and that does not equate to a "war" in America. And there is a noticeable difference between what is societally deemed as acceptable behavior here when people are publicly critical of things as opposed to certain other countries I could name, where societal opinion and indeed even government-sponsored institutions would brutally oppress and act violently against their own citizens for something like a public demonstration of dissent... Try and tell me with a straight face that there would be little to no probability of a violent outcome for someone publicly criticizing the government or Islam in many Middle Eastern nations, and I'll kindly point out to you that you're full of ****.

My own view is that if an Imam tried to publicly burn a Bible in America that violence would result because of that action.

Incidentally, do you agree with book burning?
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Saturn
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To indurain,again,your rights are dependent upon the whims of the masses.

Common good....hmmmm.

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD.
The whim of the court of law, not the whim of the individual.

Here is a brief synopsis regarding the common law

Common law is law developed by judges through decisions of courts and similar tribunals (also called case law), rather than through legislative statutes or executive branch action. A "common law system" is a legal system that gives great precedential weight to common law,[1] on the principle that it is unfair to treat similar facts differently on different occasions.[2] The body of precedent is called "common law" and it binds future decisions.

In cases where the parties disagree on what the law is, an idealized common law court looks to past precedential decisions of relevant courts. If a similar dispute has been resolved in the past, the court is bound to follow the reasoning used in the prior decision (this principle is known as stare decisis). If, however, the court finds that the current dispute is fundamentally distinct from all previous cases (called a "matter of first impression"), judges have the authority and duty to make law by creating precedent.[3] Thereafter, the new decision becomes precedent, and will bind future courts.

In practice, common law systems are considerably more complicated than the idealized system described above. The decisions of a court are binding only in a particular jurisdiction, and even within a given jurisdiction, some courts have more power than others. For example, in most jurisdictions, decisions by appellate courts are binding on lower courts in the same jurisdiction and on future decisions of the same appellate court, but decisions of lower courts are only non-binding persuasive authority. Interactions between common law, constitutional law, statutory law and regulatory law also give rise to considerable complexity. However stare decisis, the principle that similar cases should be decided according to consistent principled rules so that they will reach similar results, lies at the heart of all common law systems.

Common law legal systems are in widespread use, particularly in England where it originated in the Middle Ages,[4] and in nations that trace their legal heritage to England as former colonies of the British Empire, including the United States, Malaysia, Singapore, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, India,[5] Ghana, Cameroon, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, Hong Kong and Australia.[6]
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:15 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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You're talking rubbish.

Your country didn't give a **** about the laws enacted in Germany between 1933-1941 : your lot were too busy selling armaments and profiteering from WW2 to get involved.
It was only when the Japanese dragged ye in to WW2 that you became involved.

otherwise you would have continued to profiteer.
How interesting a european complaining that the USA didn't get involved...LOL

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So save the sanctimonius claptrap for your someone else.
You might take your own advice.

Keep digging....











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My own view is that if an Imam tried to publicly burn a Bible in America that violence would result because of that action.

Incidentally, do you agree with book burning?
Your own views matter little,you think whatever you want,we have freedom over here in the USA....

We already know you believe the state should control free speech.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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You're talking rubbish.

Your country didn't give a **** about the laws enacted in Germany between 1933-1941 : your lot were too busy selling armaments and profiteering from WW2 to get involved.
It was only when the Japanese dragged ye in to WW2 that you became involved.

otherwise you would have continued to profiteer.

So save the sanctimonius claptrap for your someone else.
What???????
We werent a world power before WW2, Great Britain sold far more armaments than the US.
We were too busy trying to recover from the Great Depression.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:17 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Love your use of the common good,especially considering your fascination with Nazis...

How deep is that hole now????
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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How interesting a european complaining that the USA didn't get involved...LOL
I dont think he is European.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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I dont think he is European.
Uh huh,he is an international man of mystery...

Or is that misery.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Saturn
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How interesting a european complaining that the USA didn't get involved...LOL
You didn't get involved - you were too busy selling armaments and profiterring from the war between 1939-1941.

Only when the Japanese dragged you in to WW2, did you take part.

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We already know you believe the state should control free speech.
That question was direct to Ambient, not you.
Can't you read?


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Your own views matter little,you think whatever you want,we have freedom over here in the USA...
Are you trying to deny my freedom of speech now?
Quelle surprise.
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:23 PM
 
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What???????
We werent a world power before WW2, Great Britain sold far more armaments than the US.
We were too busy trying to recover from the Great Depression.
Your country actively engaged in trade with Nazi Germany.
Your country actually helped supply and re-arm Germany during 1933-1939 period.

Your country's industrialists were only too happy to trade with the Nazi's.
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