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Old 08-13-2012, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Swigchow View Post
The best way for Obama to improve his poll numbers is to start a war. It worked for Bush x2. What country should we attack?
President Bush did not start any war - he defended the United States after it had been attacked.

President Obama has already started a war - he has attacked his own country.

His objective is to fundamentally change America into a European style socialist state, make it weak and become a puppet of the U.N.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why are you and your kind so gung ho to tax people?
The Democrats(politicians) get their kicks spending other people's money - mainly because they don't know how to earn any of there own - at least not honestly.

Of course they won't admit to this and they will pretend like they are Robin Hood(and they they think they are clever turning that around on Mitt Romney) - which is how they delude people into actually voting for them and their disastrous policies.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I know you all are tax cheats, or wannabes.
Protecting ones income legally in response to the confiscatory policies of liberal politicians = cheating at taxes?

Huh???

If you want more tax revenue - do what has worked every time it has been done - by Calvin Coolidge, Jack Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush: lower tax rates for everyone and watch the tax revenue roll in with the resulting job growth(which actually causes the tax revenue increase because it expands the tax base), investment(people with capital feel confident in risking their hard earned cash), and innovation(people who aren't afraid that they will lose their money will spend it on research that results in new and improved products and services that people will demand - and facilitate the continued economic growth.

This is supply side economics 101.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Lets take pandora!!!
Fighting little blue men and women is a BAD idea.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:50 AM
 
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4% on what you make above $250K. Starting at $251,001. If you're that concerned you could at least look it up.

Statements like "If that happens, I will just limit my income to $250,000, which is feasible, as will many others, therefore reducing tax revenue" indicate that you'd rather avoid paying taxes than spend more cash; why the martyr routine?
if you are smart, you don't feed the beast?

as denninger put it so well this morning:
What the government has attempted to do is protect the banksters, who effectively counterfeited nearly $20 trillion in bogus credit money from 2000-2007, from having to eat the consequences of their actions. The consequences of not protecting them from this, that is, allowing the market to assert itself and punish these institutions for their actions, would have been that all their businesses would have failed.

But the only way to protect them from that outcome, ladies and gentlemen, is to find someone to steal the actual wealth from to put in place of the false representation of capital that resulted in their "loans" having value (that is, being able to be paid and backed by an asset.)

Guess who they stole that wealth from? You!

The honest way to do so is to raise taxes so you see very penny that goes into the government coffers and is then spent in this support. The dishonest way is to deficit spend and hope the bond market doesn't throw up all over you, effectively stealing the production of the nation and transferring it to the banksters who made the bad bets.

The problem with the dishonest approach is that it's unsustainable as it is predicated on a lie. It can only "succeed" if the government can manage to get enough people to once-again believe the lie and borrow. But to borrow you must (1) want to, and (2) be qualified to.

Best of luck on that....
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:36 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I kind of like that Mexico idea. At least this way, since we are already having our resources go to pay to prop up and rebuild their country, we'll get the warm fuzzies of feeling like victors.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:55 AM
 
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I kind of like that Mexico idea. At least this way, since we are already having our resources go to pay to prop up and rebuild their country, we'll get the warm fuzzies of feeling like victors.
why do i guess that mexico would prefer things the way they are now?

besides, obama doesn't need to start a war (unless he is really greedy) because the looting continues unchecked:

(Reuters) - A ruling in the case of failed futures brokerage Sentinel Management Group could make it more difficult for customers to recoup money lost in the much larger collapse of MF Global, according to Sentinel's bankruptcy trustee.

"It does not bode well for the protection of customer funds."

Worse, Grede said, is that the ruling suggests that a brokerage that allows customer money to be mixed with its own is not necessarily committing fraud.
That may raise the bar for proving that MF Global Holdings Ltd, under then-CEO Jon Corzine, misused customer funds as it scrambled to meet margin calls to back bets on European debt in the brokerage's final days. A $1.6 billion customer shortfall remains.

Corzine has said he did not know about the transfer of any customer money.

sure he didn't-none of them do.

like taking candy from a baby.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:58 AM
 
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Instead of a war we should help the Mexicans get rid of all those drug dealers and illegals
That would be a real war.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:12 AM
 
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That would be a real war.
mexico certainly doesn't want change.

look at their unemployment numbers:

Unemployment rate 2009 2010 2011 2012
5.5% 5.4% 5.2%(2009) and 4.8%- (global finance)

look at the most recent unemployment statistics in our own country, particularly the hispanic sector. (BLS):

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rate for Hispanics (10.3 percent) edged down in July, while the rates for adult men (7.7 percent), adult women (7.5 percent), teenagers (23.8 percent), whites (7.4 percent), and blacks (14.1 percent) showed little or no change. The jobless rate for Asians was 6.2 percent in July (not seasonally adjusted), little changed from a year earlier. (See tables A-1, A-2, and A-3.)



we wish we had those numbers.

it would be a real war but it wouldn't happen.

why do you think the obama administration was running guns to mexican drug cartels?
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:14 AM
 
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why do you think the obama administration was running guns to mexican drug cartels?
To fabricate evidence to justify mandatory long gun registration.
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