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Old 09-12-2010, 06:58 PM
 
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Marc Emery is the "William Wallace" of marijuana advocacy and should be knighted, rather than blighted.
Absolutely shameful to see just how hungry the government is, to get their pound of flesh. Shame on Canada too.
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America has a draconian policy on marijuana, I seriously doubt Canada does. When you have a police state mentality and spend over 600 billion dollars on defense, and its outliers (War On Drugs, etc..) it becomes a cash cow. Until the U.S. government makes its sale legal and taxable it will remain illegal along with prison sentences that dont match the "crime". Maybe California could lead the way in November.
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I went to a bar in the heart of Vancouver BC a few years ago that was non smoking. I stepped outside to indulge in that most lethal of approved substances- nicotine. And I felt like a freak. There were at least 20 young club goers outside, a calm scene, most of them sharing joints. Anyone who knows marijuana social culture knows that its criminalization is absurd. I don't smoke reefer but I will vigorously defend people's right to. In a nation plagued by various violences, ranging from domestic to driving, linked to alcohol use, it's INCREDIBLY absurd that we demonize and criminalize marijuana use to the extent that we do.

If I had a teenage child in American society, I would be far more concerned with their involvemnet in binge drinking parties than their expermentation with a j. Just saying.
(Insert much applause) It'll be legal sooner than most of us think. If things such as the move away from fossil fuels continues in a steady and forward motion, the fact that hemp is so VERY versatile and useful, will play a part in that away movement. Count on it.

What a waste of valuable dollars on marijuana charges.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So if a drug cartel sets up shop in Mexico, he should go free to? Okay... the canadian is nothing more than a druglord in Canada... he got what he deserve, he knew the laws but it didn't stop him...
If the drug lord comes to the United States, yes.

But if its legal in Mexico, and they stay in Mexico, then no, the United States should not arrest him.

What he did in Canada was perfectly legal. Canada caved, and extradited their own citizen for breaking US law, not their own law.

For a comparison, it'd be like the United States extraditing an American citizen to Saudi Arabia for breaking Islamic law. Wouldn't you be slightly peeved about that happening? I understand the frustration from Canadians about their own country doing this.

The crime was committed by American citizens who ordered the "illegal product"

We can debate whether Marijuana is good or bad in another thread, and I guarantee you I will beat any argument against it you can drum up.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:02 PM
 
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It's a bloody shame that Canadian authorities allowed this to happen, Mark Emery is a hero.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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It's a bloody shame that Canadian authorities allowed this to happen, Mark Emery is a hero.
I'm sure that shipping bibles to some Islamic country is illegal. Could you imagine the outrage in America if our government extradited an American citizen to that country for shipping bibles there?
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:13 PM
 
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If the drug lord comes to the United States, yes.

But if its legal in Mexico, and they stay in Mexico, then no, the United States should not arrest him.

What he did in Canada was perfectly legal. Canada caved, and extradited their own citizen for breaking US law, not their own law.

For a comparison, it'd be like the United States extraditing an American citizen to Saudi Arabia for breaking Islamic law. Wouldn't you be slightly peeved about that happening? I understand the frustration from Canadians about their own country doing this.

The crime was committed by American citizens who ordered the "illegal product"

We can debate whether Marijuana is good or bad in another thread, and I guarantee you I will beat any argument against it you can drum up.
He exported his drugs to the the US... what does he think, that what he is doing is legal... do you? If the American violated Islamic law in an Islamist country then yes, they should pay the price... if the guy chooses to violate US laws by sending his drugs over here... TOO EFFING BAD...
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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He exported his drugs to the the US... what does he think, that what he is doing is legal... do you? If the American violated Islamic law in an Islamist country then yes, they should pay the price... if the guy chooses to violate US laws by sending his drugs over here... TOO EFFING BAD...
But Emery wasn't in the US, he shipped seeds there.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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(Insert much applause) It'll be legal sooner than most of us think. If things such as the move away from fossil fuels continues in a steady and forward motion, the fact that hemp is so VERY versatile and useful, will play a part in that away movement. Count on it.

What a waste of valuable dollars on marijuana charges.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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He exported his drugs to the the US... what does he think, that what he is doing is legal... do you? If the American violated Islamic law in an Islamist country then yes, they should pay the price... if the guy chooses to violate US laws by sending his drugs over here... TOO EFFING BAD...
Whats legal and illegal in our country is not legal or illegal in Canada.

Again, if an American church shipped bibles to an Islamic country where possessing a bible is illegal, should the United States ship our citizen off to their country for their laws?
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:31 PM
 
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Whats legal and illegal in our country is not legal or illegal in Canada.

Again, if an American church shipped bibles to an Islamic country where possessing a bible is illegal, should the United States ship our citizen off to their country for their laws?
The naysayers re: Emery would be screaming bloody hell if that happened.
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:43 PM
 
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Whats legal and illegal in our country is not legal or illegal in Canada.

Again, if an American church shipped bibles to an Islamic country where possessing a bible is illegal, should the United States ship our citizen off to their country for their laws?
If the US has an extradition law with that country and that country demands extradition for the person who sold it there while knowingly committing a crime... than yes... the law is the law... the guy KNEW he was breaking the law when he was actively shipping drugs into the US... he can call himself whatever he wants a druglord is still a druglord regardless of where you are in this world when you shipped illegal drugs to the US... it doesn't matter if it was legal in whatever country he is at... the borders of Canada ENDS at the border of Canada, you commit US crimes when it crosses that border...
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