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Old 09-14-2010, 09:05 AM
 
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sure, if you dictate how they live. what if someone is addicted to expensive caviar? you are dictating that they can't have that.

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I don't fail to understand anything. You fail to understand that in your own country MANY families make less than half of that and manage to do all those things you talk about. Point being $250K is PLENTY of money in most parts of the USA to live very comfortably.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Point being $250K is PLENTY of money in most parts of the USA to live very comfortably.
and we agree 250 is comfortable for most.....but it is still not rich or (as the title says) wealthy

so your point is that middle class CANT be comfortable??????
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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I don't fail to understand anything. You fail to understand that in your own country MANY families make less than half of that and manage to do all those things you talk about. Point being $250K is PLENTY of money in most parts of the USA to live very comfortably.
You fail to understand everything. I am simply pointing out that a $250K salary is very relative to geography and household situations. As you apparently did not realize this simple, basic fact, your desire to stereotype is flawed. Now you know it and can proceed with your rant, I mean analysis, on a more accurate basis. The words you are looking for are "Thank you."
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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and we agree 250 is comfortable for most.....but it is still not rich or (as the title says) wealthy

so your point is that middle class CANT be comfortable??????
Wealthy to you and rich to you might be different than wealthy and rich to other people. This entire debate seems to be subjective. Nowadays no it's becoming increasingly harder for the middle class to have any sense of financial security and future financial security and making $250K a year is definitely not middle class. Not even upper middle class considering that would put you in the 5% of the population.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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You fail to understand everything. I am simply pointing out that a $250K salary is very relative to geography and household situations. As you apparently did not realize this simple, basic fact, your desire to stereotype is flawed. Now you know it and can proceed with your rant, I mean analysis, on a more accurate basis. The words you are looking for are "Thank you."

Of course it's relative to geography but you make it sound as if LA and NYC are the norm and not the exception. The opposite is most definitely true. You must not get out much. Hence the point $250K a year will earn you a most comfortable life in 99.9% of the USA.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:20 AM
 
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I don't understand the bickering over "250k". While it is well off compared to a lot of people it is hardly rich. It is still a "working man's" wage in the sense that it is still certain career wages.

Save your frustration and anger for the 500 million or multi billion profiteers in certain fields. Like the CEO or top dogs of a health corporation that increases his 40 million from last year to 45 million this year by increasing the everyday American's health insurance premiums and deductions or outsources a job and pays off politicians which that directly creates hardship for the everyday American and makes more of America poorer so a select elite can get richer.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:21 AM
 
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sure, if you dictate how they live. what if someone is addicted to expensive caviar? you are dictating that they can't have that.
WTF are you talking about? That's the entire point...........I'm not dictating anything.....but I also don't want to hear some jack ass whine about $250K not being enough money to live on and even raise a family on when 60% of the population makes less than half of that and still manages. If someone wants to have wine taste on beer money and then sit back and complain that's their problem. It doesn't change the fact that even indulging in the occassional luxuries $250K is plenty of money to have a good comfortably life in most of the USA.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Since $250K is not even close to the median wage in the U.S., there must be plenty of people who are doing just fine with less. Nobody is saying that you can't make more money, if that's the kind of thing that you want to do. But don't try to claim that you can't possibly live a middle class lifestyle without having that much. You ARE rich, by using the yardstick of the median wage.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:23 AM
 
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I don't understand the bickering over "250k". While it is well off compared to a lot of people it is hardly rich. It is still a "working man's" wage in the sense that it is still certain career wages.

Save your frustration and anger for the 500 million or multi billion profiteers in certain fields. Like the CEO or top dogs of a health corporation that increases his 40 million from last year to 45 million this year by increasing the everyday American's health insurance premiums and deductions which that directly creates hardship for the everyday American and makes more of America poorer so a select elite can get richer.

The point is the government and media and economic heads have managed to lump the $250K earners into the same bracket as "middle class". It is not middle class to earn that much. It's not even considered upper middle class technically. A household income of $65k+ is considered upper middle class.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:27 AM
 
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I make less than $30,000 a year and live "alright". I could only imagine what could be done on $250,000 which I would consider very wealthy. Even if I lived in a more high priced local economy it would go a looooong way. It's a boatload of money.
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