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Old 09-17-2010, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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...I spend so much time arguing for gay rights? This incident is only a small part of my reasons. Denny
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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I don't understand. this was a crime committed by a psycho. what "right" could a gay person want that would protect them from nuts? do you want bodyguards assigned to every gay person?

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...I spend so much time arguing for gay rights? This incident is only a small part of my reasons. Denny
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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This isn't a gay issue, it's an issue of young people being friggin' retards.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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What in the hell does this have to do with gay rights?
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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I don't understand. this was a crime committed by a psycho. what "right" could a gay person want that would protect them from nuts? do you want bodyguards assigned to every gay person?
Maybe if California didn't trample every citizens second amendment right, this man, regardless of his perceived sexual orientation, would have had the tools to defend himself from a sociopathic predator. It would seem this employee made the mistake of opening the door to his attacker after the close of business.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Maybe if California didn't trample every citizens second amendment right, this man, regardless of his perceived sexual orientation, would have had the tools to defend himself from a sociopathic predator. It would seem this employee made the mistake of opening the door to his attacker after the close of business.
Let me guess, there has never been a hate crime, or rape or any other kind of violent altercation between humans in the great state of Missouri because you can all carry concealed... yah, I'm believing that... not.

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Old 09-17-2010, 11:52 AM
 
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It would seem this employee made the mistake of opening the door to his attacker after the close of business.
In other words, it's the victim's fault that he was attacked.

Perhaps women who get raped need to dress more conservatively too.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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What in the hell does this have to do with gay rights?
x2. Him being stabbed had nothing to do with his "right" to do anything.
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Old 09-17-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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It's an argument for gay rights in the sense that gays get treated with the same respect afforded everyone else. No law could have prevented this from occurring, but this example is multiplied over our country by a thousand and lots of people don't see it. Our legislators in various states have routinely fought to exclude sexual orientation in the list of groups that would benefit from hate crimes legislation. What they are saying is 1) there is no hate crime occurring, and 2) it's OK to hate gay people.

I'm not convinced hate crime legislation actually accomplishes anything, but if "gay rights", those rights that guarantee equality in all its forms become the law of the land, perhaps incidences like this would diminish.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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It's an argument for gay rights in the sense that gays get treated with the same respect afforded everyone else. No law could have prevented this from occurring, but this example is multiplied over our country by a thousand and lots of people don't see it. Our legislators in various states have routinely fought to exclude sexual orientation in the list of groups that would benefit from hate crimes legislation. What they are saying is 1) there is no hate crime occurring, and 2) it's OK to hate gay people.

I'm not convinced hate crime legislation actually accomplishes anything, but if "gay rights", those rights that guarantee equality in all its forms become the law of the land, perhaps incidences like this would diminish.
THANK YOU! I was so affected emotionally by this news report that I haven't been able to think clearly enough to respond to the negativity in some of the replies. You perfectly defined my thinking.
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