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Old 08-13-2012, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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The OP has it wrong: Socialism for most. Rich get it because the banks and corporations got bailed out. The poor get it, and the middle class also gets it, as many get govt. benefits also, Social Security, EArned income tax credit, free lunch programs, free education. Face it, USA is a socialist country. Govt. heavily regulates most businesses. Even TV is regulated. Even the family farms are heavily regulated and subsidized by the govt. Once the govt. started to complete with businesses, that was the end. The govt. can always beat businesses because it can offer its product free or at a substantial discount because its products or services are subsidized by the tax payers who have no say in whether they want to pay taxes or not.
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Old 08-13-2012, 07:17 AM
 
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Amazon.com: Uncle Sam's Plantation: How Big Government Enslaves America's Poor and What We Can Do About It, Revised and Updated Edition (9781595552235): Star Parker: Books

Anyone read this book?


This double-minded approach seems to keep the poor enslaved to poverty while the rich get richer. Let's face it, despite its $400 billion price tag, welfare isn't working. The solution, asserts Star Parker, is a faith-based, not state-sponsored, plan.

In Uncle Sam's Plantation, she offers five simple yet profound steps that will allow the nation's poor to go from entitlement and slavery to empowerment and freedom. Parker shares her own amazing journey up from the lower rungs of the economic system and addresses the importance of extending the free market system to this neglected group of people. Emphasizing personal initiative, faith, and responsibility, she walks readers toward releasing the hold poverty has over their lives.
You have it backwards. Socialism for Wall Street and the rich. Capitalism for the rest.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Lightbulb America has two economic systems: capitalism for the rich and socialism for the poor

Actually, that statement is 180 degrees bass-ackwards.

Events over thepast decade have shown conclusively that America has socialism for the wealthy and capitalism for the rest of us.

The wealthy get bail-outs and tax cuts from the public. The public gets cuts in programs and competition from the communist Chinese labor force that "American" corporations now embrace so fondly.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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Amazon.com: Uncle Sam's Plantation: How Big Government Enslaves America's Poor and What We Can Do About It, Revised and Updated Edition (9781595552235): Star Parker: Books

Anyone read this book?


This double-minded approach seems to keep the poor enslaved to poverty while the rich get richer. Let's face it, despite its $400 billion price tag, welfare isn't working. The solution, asserts Star Parker, is a faith-based, not state-sponsored, plan.

In Uncle Sam's Plantation, she offers five simple yet profound steps that will allow the nation's poor to go from entitlement and slavery to empowerment and freedom. Parker shares her own amazing journey up from the lower rungs of the economic system and addresses the importance of extending the free market system to this neglected group of people. Emphasizing personal initiative, faith, and responsibility, she walks readers toward releasing the hold poverty has over their lives.
In the US, you can choose to be poor, and live off the charity of a generous nation, or you can get off your ass and make something of your life.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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Star Parker is a complete moron. She has it exactly backwards. We bail out rich bankers from public funds and hand over the poor to be exploited by capitalism. The solution is hardly imposing her religious beliefs on everyone else.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The OP has it backwards. We have controlled market socialism for the very wealthy and a free market nightmare for the poor. The real choice is to be born to wealthy parents and be successful with a head start (Romney for example) or work your ass off and still remain poor (most of America's workforce).
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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Why? Because of this:
You're not the original poster, and the thread was two years old by the time you replied to it. Instead of starting a new thread with updated information, it appears your sole purpose was specifically to dig up an old thread for some meaningless purpose.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Here's what the rich think:

A Note of Appreciation from the Rich

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Always remember that if everyone like you were economically secure and socially privileged like us, there would be no one left to fill all those boring, dangerous, low-paid jobs in our economy. And no one to fight our wars for us, or blindly follow orders in our totalitarian corporate institutions. And certainly no one to meekly go to their grave without having lived a full and creative life. So please, keep up the good work!
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Without capitalism there would be no funding for the social programs.. the richer the middle class and wealthy get, the more money to take care of the ones who are struggling.. We don't need everyone on welfare.. there would be a total collapse of funding for the poor.. no more checks going out if not for a strong tax base. The debt will eventually be too high and no one will lend the government money.. then no more welfare checks, no more social security checks, and Obama spending like there is no end to the money he can borrow.. there is.. look at Europe. They are in big trouble and we are in the same situation.. too much spending and not enough jobs to get the tax base to cover the spending. Too many takers vs, tax payers.
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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That statement is exactly 180 degrees off.

America has socialism for the rich and capitalism for the rest of us. The rich now have their wealth protected by taxpayer dollars. The working class gets to compete against 3rd world wage scales.
This was exactly my reaction too. The richest region of the country now is centered around DC, according to Bloomberg:
Beltway Earnings Make U.S. Capital Richer Than Silicon Valley - Bloomberg

Rest assured there is not an explosion of capitalism in and around DC, rather there's an explosion of socialism (defined as government owned and operated means of production).
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