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With two wars costing trillions and stimulus and bailout bills also costing trillions and our economy still being very weak with no solid evidence of major improvement...war unless it was between life and death is not an option!
I think the war hawks think tax money grows on trees. I bet none will bring up the possibility of the need to raise taxes to pay for their wars. They're more likely to declare a need for tax cuts in the event of war like Bush did.
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I guess that's the position we should have taken after the Battle of Britian. I'm sure things would have just worked out fine for them and us. Hitler would have danced at that idea.
No, it's the position we should've taken with Vietnam and Iraq, but I guess the war mongers/military contractors wouldn't have danced at that, eh?
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We intervened PRIOR to that by aiding Britain.
The question remains, if we leave the mid east to it's own devices, what will happen? Is the US better off or not?
Our many costly years of involvement in the reagion certainly haven't created stability or anything remotely close to peace, time to tell every country in the region they have two choices, they can learn to live together or they can die together. And if they mess with the US they will be vaporized.
Our many costly years of involvement in the reagion certainly haven't created stability or anything remotely close to peace, time to tell every country in the region they have two choices, they can learn to live together or they can die together. And if they mess with the US they will be vaporized.
We have a winner. Don't start no s*** won't be no s***!
No, it's the position we should've taken with Vietnam and Iraq, but I guess the war mongers/military contractors wouldn't have danced at that, eh?
Vietnam and Iraq are weak arguments because there was no sufficient evidence (especially in Iraq) to be there in the first place. There is sufficient evidence to believe that Israel will invade Iran because they continue to develop nuclear weapons. If you don't intervene or maintain a presence in that situation, then the region will break down and destabilize. Israel has already said that it will invade--Iran says that it will continue to develop the technology. What more do you want? Are you waiting for the Fuhrer to show up at your doorsteps? The US needs to continue sanctioning and damaging them on an economic level. Military intrusion should always be a last resort.
But sitting back and smoking a pipe in your rocking chair didn't work in the second world war and it won't work here.
That'd be my ME policy, there's just no way I can believe thousands of years of hatred will ever be eliminated by an outsider.
That is my policy as well. Our intervention in that region certainly hasn't helped. Furthermore, our intervention in Vietnam didn't stop the spread of Communism.
Our many costly years of involvement in the reagion certainly haven't created stability or anything remotely close to peace, time to tell every country in the region they have two choices, they can learn to live together or they can die together. And if they mess with the US they will be vaporized.
I don't disagree, but the problem has always been with how to manage the situation, not that intervention should have been avoided altogether. We originally went into Iraq and just rushed the front door without a plan, and what we have now is the result. It could have been handled much more effectively with better results. The problem was centered around 1. Our reason for being there in the first place and 2. What do we do once we get in there? Neither of questions were really handled well.
But the question remains--is the US better off if it plays an isolationist role in the mid east?
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Vietnam and Iraq are weak arguments because there was no sufficient evidence (especially in Iraq) to be there in the first place. There is sufficient evidence to believe that Israel will invade Iran because they continue to develop nuclear weapons. If you don't intervene or maintain a presence in that situation, then the region will break down and destabilize.
How do you "destabilize" a system that IS NOT stable?
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Israel has already said that it will invade--Iran says that it will continue to develop the technology. What more do you want? Are you waiting for the Fuhrer to show up at your doorsteps? The US needs to continue sanctioning and damaging them on an economic level. Military intrusion should always be a last resort.
But sitting back and smoking a pipe in your rocking chair didn't work in the second world war and it won't work here.
Khrushchev said he would bury us. I guess you would have launched an invasion/occupation of the USSR based on cheap talk?
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That is my policy as well. Our intervention in that region certainly hasn't helped. Furthermore, our intervention in Vietnam didn't stop the spread of Communism.
Didn't hurt the US either, we trade with them for cripes sake.
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