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I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying don't do something that you know will send people into a frenzy. I value my life so I don't waste it on doing stunts to prove a point, especially if proving a point could get you killed.
You value your life, but not a future of freedom?
What I and most others are saying here is that following your path will end our freedom - and soon. We MUST take a stand and nip this in the bud..TODAY..not tomorrow.
We are staring today at threats to our freedom that dwarf the communist threat of the 50s and 60s. This is dead serious stuff and we dare not let this madness seep any further than it already has into our culture.
How about you walk into the projects and start calling people there the n-word, just see what happens. This is a similar case. If you do something to rile people, don't be surprised when they get riled up.
If you go to the Middle East and say something in their countries to "rile people" as you say, that's one thing.
There's a difference in this situation. Molly is an American in her own country, where she has something called a right to free speech. Muslims don't understand free speech.
I got an e-mail full of cartoons spoofing Biblical events - old and new testament - it was all clean, and it was funny. I'm a Christian but it didn't offend me because I have some measure of maturity and rationality, and know it was not a mean-spirited email. Even though nasty attacks on Christianity are occurring all the time, I know the difference.
One has to have wisdom and discernment. Apparently, these Muslims have neither.
If you go to the Middle East and say something in their countries to "rile people" as you say, that's one thing.
There's a difference in this situation. Molly is an American in her own country, where she has something called a right to free speech. Muslims don't understand free speech.
I got an e-mail full of cartoons spoofing Biblical events - old and new testament - it was all clean, and it was funny. I'm a Christian but it didn't offend me because I have some measure of maturity and rationality, and know it was not a mean-spirited email. Even though nasty attacks on Christianity are occurring all the time, I know the difference.
One has to have wisdom and discernment. Apparently, these Muslims have neither.
Excellent post. THe liberal, weak, apologists, like Cuebald, can't understand rationality, maturity, and proportionality. All they understand is appease the anger. THrough total fear and cowardice, they justify death against those that insult another religion.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying don't do something that you know will send people into a frenzy. I value my life so I don't waste it on doing stunts to prove a point, especially if proving a point could get you killed.
Well, at least you wear your cowardace like a badge for everyone to see.
Silly, terrible, or corrupt beliefs shouldn't get a pass just because they are called a religion.
If you can't mock an idea, what can you mock?
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The wise thing to do is to obviously find out what Muslims don't like and don't do it.
So no pork, beards for the men and head to toe coverings for all women over the age of two.
After all Muslims don't like it. And the civilized thing to do is to do what they want, right Mr. Chamberlin?
Or maybe the civilized thing to do is not compare people to bears and dogs. Maybe the civilized thing to do is to hold people to adult morays and actually expect them to act like this is the 21st century and not prehistoric times.
The very idea of Muslims being upset at cartoons that offend their religion is laughable anyway. Just look at the vile imagery against Jews that permeates their own societies:
Mohammed was an unpleasant, nasty, war making moron who married a nine year old and wrote a book full of nonsense. Those are my personal views. That's called freedom of speech. More Muslims need to stop implying that unless we share their views physical violence against people is okay.
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Westernphobia from the so-called religion of peace rears its ugly, intolerant head again.
It's disturbing that an American should have to fear for her life in her own country because of religious zealots who have no sense of humor, no sense of irony, and do not embrace American values such as our right to freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Anybody who thinks death threats are an appropriate response to cartoons needs their head checked.
Wow! Liberals are starting to sound more like the Islamic terrorists they apologize so much for. Further proof that liberalism is a mental disease.
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You value your life, but not a future of freedom?
What I and most others are saying here is that following your path will end our freedom - and soon. We MUST take a stand and nip this in the bud..TODAY..not tomorrow.
We are staring today at threats to our freedom that dwarf the communist threat of the 50s and 60s. This is dead serious stuff and we dare not let this madness seep any further than it already has into our culture.
I'm not going to comment on any of your ignorant, childish, racist, full of hatred and disrespect comments, but as one last try, here are some links that will give you better idea what Islam is, just be sure you have good knowledge of the subject or else you look like a bunch of wackos with keyboards..
Great western philosophers ,writers and scientists views of The Prophet:
Dear aehussein, and others who would defend bizarre, abnormal and unacceptable behavior based on a manufactured religion conceived by a power-hungry mortal human being.
What Non-Muslims Say About Prophet Muhammad (Mohammed) is not as significant as what former Muslims say about Muhammad. They know, from first hand experience and knowledge, both sides.
Dear aehussein, and others who would defend bizarre, abnormal and unacceptable behavior based on a manufactured religion conceived by a power-hungry mortal human being.
What Non-Muslims Say About Prophet Muhammad (Mohammed) is not as significant as what former Muslims say about Muhammad. They know, from first hand experience and knowledge, both sides.
I don't really wanna get into comparative religion debate, but if you wanna talk about manufactured religion, here is what Christian theologists say about Christianity: The mythmaker: Paul and the ... - Google Books
Your argument is also invalid, former Muslims views against Islam could exactly be as biased as Muslims defense of Islam, so a Non Muslim view of Islam and the prophet gives you a glimpse into the character that, for people with working brains, will draw your attention to the fact that you could be seeing the subject from one point of view and there are other points of view , other sides of the story, narrations,interpretations that you didn't get the chance to look at.
My conclusion out of this stupid discussion is that I see inquisition coming to the US, I see inquisition coming and I see forceful conversion of Muslims, I see executions, torture , rape and children killing and kidnapping, it happened before, and it will happen again, and for the same alleged reasons "Islam is from the devil", lets convert all Muslims or else kill them." review history of the inquisition in Spain"
I don't really wanna get into comparative religion debate, but if you wanna talk about manufactured religion, here is what Christian theologists say about Christianity: The mythmaker: Paul and the ... - Google Books
Your argument is also invalid, former Muslims views against Islam could exactly be as biased as Muslims defense of Islam, so a Non Muslim view of Islam and the prophet gives you a glimpse into the character that, for people with working brains, will draw your attention to the fact that you could be seeing the subject from one point of view and there are other points of view , other sides of the story, narrations,interpretations that you didn't get the chance to look at.
My conclusion out of this stupid discussion is that I see inquisition coming to the US, I see inquisition coming and I see forceful conversion of Muslims, I see executions, torture , rape and children killing and kidnapping, it happened before, and it will happen again, and for the same alleged reasons "Islam is from the devil", lets convert all Muslims or else kill them." review history of the inquisition in Spain"
Wake up, you're dreaming.... UNLESS you mean that the killing and all the horrible things will be done under the guise of Islam, then you are speaking truth.
Wake up, you're dreaming.... UNLESS you mean that the killing and all the horrible things will be done under the guise of Islam, then you are speaking truth.
It was never done under the guise of Islam, please,if you know about specific incidents, list'em for me, I'm talking about mass conversions that are documented and proved right , if you can't provide such evidence, then hide your ignorance and get a life.
and I mean Muslims will be prosecuted and forcefully converted in mass numbers, or otherwise massacred under the claims that they believe in the devil, by the right wingers and KKK alike here in the states, plenty of them by the way, the only thing that is holding this from happening now is the system that exists, and a few reasonable voices that know the truth and work their brains, once the system falls, God forbid that happens anytime soon, and you and I know that there are maniacs among you working towards that, the Inquisition will start and people who "think" the way you and others on here do, will see it as "saving " the Muslims , trust me, it is history and history tends to repeat itself.
I was listening to two Muslim women on the radio last night. They discusses the clause that makes what comes later in the qur'an supercedes earlier statements by muhamed. They discussed how early in the qur'an Muhammad tried to make Islam attractive to Jews and Christians but that later the qur'ran speaks to killing the infidel and how those later statements take precedent over the earlier statement where it attempts to portray Islam as showing reverence to Jesus and the virgin Mary.
These Muslim women stated that it was impossible to be both an American and a Muslim because of the commands contained within the qur'an.They suggested asking Muslims in America who claimed to be moderate if they reject ALL instruction by Muhammad to kill infidels and kafirs. Specific reference was made to chapters 5 and 9 in the qur'an but that is all I recall. I was driving and unable to pull over and take notes.
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Further proof that liberalism is a mental disease.
