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Old 09-17-2010, 01:24 PM
 
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I am a hunter, and I own a shotgun. I have a hard time understanding exactly how her owning a gun would have prevented this. Maybe it would have. Maybe not.

I don't keep my shotgun loaded, and it is locked up with a cable lock through the action. Realistically, there is no way I could unlock it and load it in time to use it against an intruder.

To keep it unlocked, and loaded, I believe, would be irresponsible in a house with children.
I agree with you on this regard, loaded guns around children have tragic statistics. It's a hard call when there are children in the home. About the only thing that may have worked in this situation is a good home alarm system, bolted doors, etc. Did the Connecticut family have these, I wonder?
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:31 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Why not train your children better,it is more troublesome I guess...

Didn't you get the memo....Personal RESPONSIBILITY went out the window years ago!
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:37 PM
 
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There are inexpensive safeboxes for handguns...
Children should not be a negative factor in arming & self defence...

USA is the only country where people are not depriverd of the right to self defence.
A right unexercised is a right lost...
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Tyrone, GA
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I agree with you on this regard, loaded guns around children have tragic statistics. It's a hard call when there are children in the home. About the only thing that may have worked in this situation is a good home alarm system, bolted doors, etc. Did the Connecticut family have these, I wonder?
i've been going to our local indoor range weekly for the past few months and have noticed many dad's teaching their 8-10 year old daughters how to shoot handguns (.22lr). also, i've noticed a good number of elderly being instructed on first time gun users.

my observation, kids who have shot guns quickly find out that they are not toys and will treat it accordingly. kids that were on the news that played with guns were never properly trained.

unfortunately, accidental gun death is a consequence of human error. it may not be as common as children killed by drunk drivers, but one must weigh the benefits vs the dangers of owning a firearm in a home with children. i'm glad we can make those decisions as law abiding adults and not have the government make those choices for us. it would really suck if only law enforcement was allowed to drive vehicles and the masses can only use public transportation. that would reduce if not eliminate child mortality by vehicle.

irresponsible parents are just that. their bad choices affects every other parent, therefore, there is a big debate on gun ownership with kids.

sorry for going off topic...

-a|ex
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Just a friendly suggestion, one gun owner to another, lose the sign. On the off chance the you shot an innocent person or even a guilty one, you really don't need that sign showing up in a civil court proceeding.
And the flip side to it is that the person who enters my home illegally, ignoring clear boundaries, alarms and the warning posted clearly on the outside cannot expect that they will meet no resistance once inside. No one ends up inside the house of another "innocently", particularly in the dark of night.

I really don't want to ever shoot someone. I want them the see the warnings and say "Let's find an easier one, maybe next door or the next block." But if they are foolish enough to come in, I guarantee there will be one story to tell when the police show up to fill out their reports - "I felt my life was in danger, officer. He said he would kill me!" <keep repeating>
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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And how are they going to break into my house without the dogs barking, walk through the house and up to my bedroom, in the 5 seconds it would take me to get my handgun out of the gun safe (press-finger code) and aim it at the door?

I don't care if they have a machine gun: a well-aimed, reliable revolver pointed at the door from my position behind the bed and braced against it, would win every time.

It's not about firepower. It's about having a place to aim, and being comfortable putting a bullet in that place. The criminal has to come through the door. He has no idea where I am in the room, even if he's scouted the entire house previously (and believe me, I'd know).

Frankly, no matter what the situation, any criminal would MUCH rather the victim be unarmed and afraid of guns.
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SOunds like they don't have to get in to set your house on fire.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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In Texas we have the castle law. Anyone who is not armed i their house is crazy.
I don't need a gun to solve my problems.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Here
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I don't need a gun to solve my problems.
True. You can always opt to just swallow a bunch of pills.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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True. You can always opt to just swallow a bunch of pills.
How would that help against other people? Let me put it this way, it's always been the other guy that found himself laying on the ground.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:37 PM
 
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How would that help against other people?
Went right over your head.

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Let me put it this way, it's always been the other guy that found himself laying on the ground.
Chuck? Is that you?
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