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Old 09-17-2010, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Wellesley superintendent apologizes for letting students on field trip pray at Islamic mosque - Wellesley, Massachusetts - The Wellesley Townsman

It was a field trip the parents gave permission for. While it's not something I would have done given the current climate in the US, before Youtube this wouldn't have been an issue. So I have to ask myself what the real problem here is.
The parents were MISLED regarding the substance of the field trip. The PROOF of that is in the permission slip letter versus what happened at the mosque.

Outrageous.

Would the principal and teachers of this school EVER, in your wildest dreams, sponsor a field trip to a church? Synagogue?
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Where is the "hypocrisy"?The superintendent apologized. There isn't' a time machine available to go back and make sure these kids didn't do what they did so the apology is going to HAVE to do. Even the ACLU couldn't get more than that.
Any one with a bit of common sense would NEVER have scheduled such a trip. And then try to deceive the parents on the true intent of the trip. Obviously, some touchy-feely liberal educator came up with the bright idea.
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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More Islamophobia.
How would you be reacting if this were a trip to a Catholic church?

Where is the separation of Church and state?

I thought "promoting" religion by states was unconstitutional?
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Old 09-17-2010, 07:19 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Well, who needs the ACLU? The parents should get together, hire a lawyer and sue the school district and the teacher who dreamed up the trip should lose their job. Then, the kids should sue their parents for being jackasses. These are the same people who think red or green icing on cupcakes at Christmas time is wrong.

The brainiac adults (chaperones and teachers, including the mother on the video) who didn't make a peep when it was happening is an example of the PC American public who sits silently because they are afraid of offending someone even when they know it isn't right. And don't think those muslims aren't counting on that.
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The parents were MISLED regarding the substance of the field trip. The PROOF of that is in the permission slip letter versus what happened at the mosque.

Outrageous.

Would the principal and teachers of this school EVER, in your wildest dreams, sponsor a field trip to a church? Synagogue?
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Any one with a bit of common sense would NEVER have scheduled such a trip. And then try to deceive the parents on the true intent of the trip. Obviously, some touchy-feely liberal educator came up with the bright idea.
^What they said....
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:36 AM
 
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How would you be reacting if this were a trip to a Catholic church?

Where is the separation of Church and state?

I thought "promoting" religion by states was unconstitutional?
I attended elementary school in Massachusetts. It was a while ago, but I'm not that old. After school we got on public school buses that took us to catechism twice a week. Then those public school buses took us home. On Fridays, the public school buses took us to the YMCA for phys ed classes. Girls had to wear dresses to school, except on Fridays because of our YMCA trips.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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To me it sound like a couple kids wanted to play. But once you get to this point: you can't stop there. It's almost mandatory that everyone in the country overreact.
Ceece, it shouldn't have happened, don't defend it! This is nothing more than liberal teachers with an agenda.
The Superintendent of Wellesley Public Schools apologized.

If this had been a Catholic church the liberals on this board would be howling with indignation and if you don't think so then you haven't been paying attention.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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I attended elementary school in Massachusetts. It was a while ago, but I'm not that old. After school we got on public school buses that took us to catechism twice a week. Then those public school buses took us home. On Fridays, the public school buses took us to the YMCA for phys ed classes. Girls had to wear dresses to school, except on Fridays because of our YMCA trips.
Sorry DC but I call major BS! I too am from MA (Watertown) and this never happened. Unless you went to Catholic school, there was absolutely no connection between the CCD classes and the public school. If public school buses were being used to deliver kids to CCD from public school then they were breaking the law.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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To me it sound like a couple kids wanted to play. But once you get to this point: you can't stop there. It's almost mandatory that everyone in the country overreact.


Maybe I'm missing something here?

Isn't the issue with setting aside time for "voluntary" school prayer that some students who opt out will be made to feel like outsiders and thereby pressured to participate?

So how is this "voluntary" field trip different?

And since when do liberals support tax payer dollars being used to fund a trip to a mosque?

Is the Baptist church up the street next week's outing?
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Dorchester
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More Islamophobia.
There is an element of fundamental Islam that wants to see you as a charred corpse and has, so far, only failed in this achievement due to ineptitude.

Not all Muslims are terrorists but to completely dismiss Islam's roll in what is going on is profoundly stupid.
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:10 AM
 
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Sorry DC but I call major BS! I too am from MA (Watertown) and this never happened. Unless you went to Catholic school, there was absolutely no connection between the CCD classes and the public school. If public school buses were being used to deliver kids to CCD from public school then they were breaking the law.
Sorry, TomDot. It happened. We walked out of school, got on the school buses, and were taken to catechism. Twice a week. The majority of the school was Catholic, but it was a public school. No nuns were teaching. Though the playground was segregated, girls on one side, boys on the other. No one was compelled to get on the buses going to catechism. But the public school system did provided busing for those who did want to go. And many parents took advantage of it, because it was an after-school program that helped a lot of parents who worked until 5pm and didn't want children left home alone.
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