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Old 09-17-2010, 08:09 PM
 
Location: California
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Well, then how do you feel about schools introducing the students to faiths?
THIS particular school has a program that is popular among it's students and parents that teaches about different religions. I have no problem with that.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:15 PM
 
Location: California
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If it was a Islamic prayer before the football, these liberals would consider it a cultural act and a learning opportunity. However, a Christian prayer goes against the Establishment Clause.
Well if you and the others need to be spoon fed:
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many parents voiced support for the curriculum, which includes a visit to a synagogue, a gospel music performance and a visit from representatives of the Hindu religion.
That should stop the "but christianity..." comments. It won't because people are ignorant fools, but it should.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Wellesley superintendent apologizes for letting students on field trip pray at Islamic mosque - Wellesley, Massachusetts - The Wellesley Townsman

It was a field trip the parents gave permission for. While it's not something I would have done given the current climate in the US, before Youtube this wouldn't have been an issue. So I have to ask myself what the real problem here is.
The real problem is that the kids were taken to two other services in Christian churches but they didn't take part. At that the Muslim site they prayed Muslim style. In the knees with the head on the floor and everything and you can't see anything wrong? Plenty of people I would accept that from but not you.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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However, under the circumstances the kids were "going through the motions" not actually converting or anything.
Are you sure that none of them didn't like that method of prayer so much that they will convert? No matter how you look at it separation of church and state was violated here and the Muslims know it whether the school people are smart enough to know it or not.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:21 PM
 
Location: California
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The real problem is that the kids were taken to two other services in Christian churches but they didn't take part. At that the Muslim site they prayed Muslim style. In the knees with the head on the floor and everything and you can't see anything wrong? Plenty of people I would accept that from but not you.
Only 5 boys did this. 5 boys who WANTED to do this. And I'm not even sure if their parents are complaining so why is anyone else? MONEY! LAWSUIT! FAKE THE TAPES!!!
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Where is the "hypocrisy"?The superintendent apologized. There isn't' a time machine available to go back and make sure these kids didn't do what they did so the apology is going to HAVE to do. Even the ACLU couldn't get more than that.
When will you be watching and listening to that video? I was nearly thinking like you till I finally watched it and when they talked about proseltyzing by the Muslims I got real bothered. They won't allow that kind of stuff by Christians and yet they were sure as hell recruiting in that mosque.

I think it is past time for the ACLU and others liberals to figure out that the Muslims aren't playing the game on a level playing field. The Constitution of the US applies to all schools and all churches and look what they did.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:44 PM
 
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When will you be watching and listening to that video? I was nearly thinking like you till I finally watched it and when they talked about proseltyzing by the Muslims I got real bothered. They won't allow that kind of stuff by Christians and yet they were sure as hell recruiting in that mosque.

I think it is past time for the ACLU and others liberals to figure out that the Muslims aren't playing the game on a level playing field. The Constitution of the US applies to all schools and all churches and look what they did.
Exactly!!!!
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Well if you and the others need to be spoon fed:


That should stop the "but christianity..." comments. It won't because people are ignorant fools, but it should.
Did you notice what happened to the women sponsors, women teachers and the girls of the class? They were asked to leave the service and that is a perfect picture of Muslim ways and yet that woman who had converted told the kids that Muslim were given the vote long before women in the US got it. She said that they were allowed to vote in Saudi Arabia long ago and they have never voted in that country yet. Hell men don't even get to vote there. These people even lie and cheat when they are recruiting converts.

It is time for you to watch that video.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:58 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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They were not allowed in the prayer room. I don't know enough about the religion to comment on why..but the girls had to stay in another room and watch from afar.
Well that will certainly teach the children about Islam...

Basically half of the population are second class people.
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Old 09-17-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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THIS particular school has a program that is popular among it's students and parents that teaches about different religions. I have no problem with that.
I would have no problem with that either, but when they start recruiting I start having concerns because the others aren't allowed to do that. They didn't just show the kids the mosque and a service but invited those boys to take part in the service and threw the women and girls out before the actual praying started. Now Jr. High kids just don't have the experience to deal with crap like that and the Muslims know that.
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