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Old 09-17-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Fascinating. He can actually be more than one thing at a time. Who knew?

So, accommodating your brilliant observation:

You don't think excellent political commentator/pundits and therapists should be held to different standards?

He certainly can multi-task. But which hat was he wearing when he made the comment?

I see we're now arguing context and intent in this pending debacle of a thread.

Schlessinger has also at times been noted as a "poltical commentator" so apparently she is also able to multi-task. What hat was she wearing when the comment was made?
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Let's go with White Christian Hetero-sexual Conservative,
be careful, PC you know.
Are you Italian?
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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Sorry in my eyes that makes someone a hypocrite.

To claim to want to end racism but to say that the most offensive word a white person can use is acceptable long as its say hear say or certain times. Is never going to end racism

That is not going to stop anyone from using the word. Its going to continue to cause things like this. Its acceptable for certain people to use and not for others. So the word will continue to be used.

I am not saying you per say when it comes to the other thread or you calling Dr Laura a racist. I am saying however that democrats in that thread and on this board have called republicans racist for no reason other then being a republican. Let any republican go on national tv and use that word and the responses in this thread would be different.

I find it very hypocritical for democrats to claim to be the party for minorities and against racism and so on yet so many are here making excuses for a word that had a republican used well you get it.

I just dont want to hear any democrat ever complain about any white republican that might use that word thats all. Its that simple
You know how people are always saying it's not guns that kill people, it's people that kill people? They're kind of saying it doesn't matter what kind of gun or how many guns a person has, right? What matters isn't the gun, but how a person uses that gun, right?

Think about it. It's not the word itself that is harmful. It's how people use the word. Right?
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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It is well known as the conservative/liberal main stream media double standard. If a conservative comedian had dropped the N-bomb, he would be figuratively tarred and feathered.
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:42 PM
 
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Sorry in my eyes that makes someone a hypocrite.

To claim to want to end racism but to say that the most offensive word a white person can use is acceptable long as its say hear say or certain times. Is never going to end racism

That is not going to stop anyone from using the word. Its going to continue to cause things like this. Its acceptable for certain people to use and not for others. So the word will continue to be used.

I am not saying you per say when it comes to the other thread or you calling Dr Laura a racist. I am saying however that democrats in that thread and on this board have called republicans racist for no reason other then being a republican. Let any republican go on national tv and use that word and the responses in this thread would be different.

I find it very hypocritical for democrats to claim to be the party for minorities and against racism and so on yet so many are here making excuses for a word that had a republican used well you get it.

I just dont want to hear any democrat ever complain about any white republican that might use that word thats all. Its that simple
If you feel that the word shouldn't be used at all, fine. I personally feel that it is the underlying issue (racism) that should be the focus, not the simple utterance of a word. I have never seen you in a thread condeming racsim from anyone on the right, yet you are focused on this word knowing that Bill Maher did not use it in an offensive manner. Your statements would be more credible if you actually denounced racism from the right. To you this is about bashing the left. Partisanism takes precedence over racism. I find it hypocritical for you to call anyone racist on one side of the political spectrum while condoning it from the other. Were you in the Dr. Laura threads saying that she was wrong for using it? Racism without the N word is still racism.
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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He certainly can multi-task. But which hat was he wearing when he made the comment?
That would be a more interesting question were it relevant to the question being asked. In response to your last post it was adjusted to this:

You don't think excellent political commentator/pundits and therapists should be held to different standards?

You still do not seem interested in answering it.

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I see we're now arguing context and intent in this pending debacle of a thread.
Now? Weren't we arguing that from the second post?

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Schlessinger has also at times been noted as a "poltical commentator" so apparently she is also able to multi-task. What hat was she wearing when the comment was made?
Are you not acknowledging here that it actually does make a difference?
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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So I repeat my earlier question:

What word can I say, and you can't?
You can say an word that you want to. If you offend people, just be prepared for the consequences. The same applies to me.
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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Bill Maher is a comedian. Laura Schlessinger is a therapist... or at least she pretends to be.

You don't think comedians and therapists should be held to different standards?

Really?
And when Dog the bounty hunter said it, he lost his show for a while. So, yes, everyone should be held to the same standard, especially if you have your own show.
So are you saying that it is okay that he said it?
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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Laura's use of the word was in defending it. Bill's use of the word was pointing out how it will probably be used in the 2012 campaign (that's my understanding from the link). Laura's use was offensive to some extent while Bill's was not so much "using" the word as it was commenting on its use. Apple meet orange.
Dr. Lauara wasn't defending it. Did you even listen to the tape??? She was pointing out the double standard in its use. You could argue she didn't do a good job of making her point, but to say she was defending it is nutty.
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It is well known as the conservative/liberal main stream media double standard. If a conservative comedian had dropped the N-bomb, he would be figuratively tarred and feathered.
Again... it actually depends on how he used it.
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