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Old 09-20-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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Corporatist Chemical Weapons of Mass Dumbstruction, that's what!


YouTube - How Mercury Causes Brain Neuron Damage - Uni. of Calgary


yep, uniquely duh-Merica too... no surprise this is Canadian research!
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:24 AM
 
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Exactly! And this issue just angers me so much! If you drop a bulb, you are not supposed to use the vacuum cleaner as it will further spread the mercury. And what about Autistic children who cannot have mercury around them?


I see a huge issue with their disposal. Are people really going to safely do this? Doubtful. Is this why "chips" now are being put into the recycle bins?? Big Brother "watching out" for you....

Hate to cry "conspiracy" here, but this is such an obvious danger. I mean, why not just bring back the lead laden toys too?
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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I see a huge issue with their disposal. Are people really going to safely do this? Doubtful. Is this why "chips" now are being put into the recycle bins?? Big Brother "watching out" for you....

Hate to cry "conspiracy" here, but this is such an obvious danger. I mean, why not just bring back the lead laden toys too?
No need to when cadmium laden ones in childrens "jewelry" keep making their way to the US from China despite previous warnings.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:37 AM
 
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I have always been very careful to avoid getting cut by broken fluorescent bulbs. I am also careful not to get cut by broken incandescent bulbs as well. Just more so with the fluorescent because of the minerals lining the bulb. The minuscule amount of mercury has never been a bother.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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I have always been very careful to avoid getting cut by broken fluorescent bulbs. I am also careful not to get cut by broken incandescent bulbs as well. Just more so with the fluorescent because of the minerals lining the bulb. The minuscule amount of mercury has never been a bother.


If we can think outside the box a moment. Imagine thousands or millions of them, unprotected from breakage, and dumped in hundreds of places. Would that maybe constitute a "bother"?


Interesting article found on reopening cinnabar mines in China to make our EPA approved bulbs:

"Green" Lightbulbs Poison Workers

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6211261.ece

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Old 09-20-2010, 12:00 PM
 
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Yes, there's mercury in fluorescent bulbs and yes, its dangerous but I think it is a bit overblown... for instance, a small instance of very minute exposure isn't likely to harm you but repeated exposure will... the problem with fluorescent bulbs is that when they get dumped, they leach into the groundwater and get into animals... making you chronically exposed and at doses much higher than mercury vapors from a broken fluorescent bulbs... the reason they aren't illegal is that they consume much less power than incandescent bulbs... its why we should all move to LED bulbs, consume less and less toxic but they should be carefully recycled (as well as carefully produced)... as in don't do it like China does...
actually fluorescent bulbs consume less energy than incandescent bulbs only if they are both left on for ling periods of time. if they are turned on and off on a regular basis, like most people do in their houses, then there is no energy savings as it takes a lot of energy to power up a fluorescent bulb.

i do agree with using LED bulbs though, those are more energy efficient, and longer lasting than either of the other two bulbs. the typical LED bulb will last as long as 100,000 hours of continuous operation.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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actually fluorescent bulbs consume less energy than incandescent bulbs only if they are both left on for ling periods of time. if they are turned on and off on a regular basis, like most people do in their houses, then there is no energy savings as it takes a lot of energy to power up a fluorescent bulb.

i do agree with using LED bulbs though, those are more energy efficient, and longer lasting than either of the other two bulbs. the typical LED bulb will last as long as 100,000 hours of continuous operation.
^^^Have you actually purchased an LED that lasted that long?

I've purchased two LED's and they lasted less than 3 mos. each @ $24.00/bulb (40 watt).
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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^^^Have you actually purchased an LED that lasted that long?

I've purchased two LED's and they lasted less than 3 mos. each @ $24.00/bulb (40 watt).
currently all my LEDs are in low voltage uses, flashlights, and automotive applications.

when did you buy your LEDs? and are you sure you got the right ones for your application?
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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I see a huge issue with their disposal. Are people really going to safely do this? Doubtful. Is this why "chips" now are being put into the recycle bins?? Big Brother "watching out" for you....

Hate to cry "conspiracy" here, but this is such an obvious danger. I mean, why not just bring back the lead laden toys too?
Yes, and it's amazing that they don't see the pattern of people and that they will not be responsible. So, saying we are cleaning up the environment is not really a serious issue for them. And I'm like you, I don't want to cry "conspiracy", but what is going on? No one can be that stupid or can they? LOL!
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:43 PM
 
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^^^Have you actually purchased an LED that lasted that long?

I've purchased two LED's and they lasted less than 3 mos. each @ $24.00/bulb (40 watt).
It's like they are purposely trying to make people go broke!
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