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Old 09-20-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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It's like they are purposely trying to make people go broke!
well some manufacturers try to save money by using low voltage LEDs in high voltage systems, and the LEDs then burn out quickly. there are high voltage LEDs available, and they do cost more, but they also last much longer.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:06 PM
 
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Lightbulb Corporate lobbyists behind incandescent ban

Corporate lobbyists behind incandescent ban

Shocked, I'm shocked , I tell ya!

Bright idea: lobbyists win light ban. - Free Online Library
"Bright idea: lobbyists win light ban.

THE INCANDESCENT light bulb died on December 19. Its funeral was attended by House and Senate leaders, President George W. Bush, and several commemorative signing pens. When the president signed the 2007 energy bill (passed by a veto-proof majority), he approved a mandate that all light bulbs consume 25 percent less energy by the year 2012. That effectively bans the traditional, cheap incandescent bulb, allowing the expensive but longer-lasting and more efficient compact fluorescent bulb to take over the market.

One reason such a major change moved so smoothly through Congress was that industry lobbyists wanted it..."
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:08 PM
 
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Done already!
Me too.

At first I liked the idea of CFLs. Then I deployed them and realized it created an atmosphere only slightly nicer than a Gestapo interrogation room.

The 100 watt incandescents will be the first to go and it was actually Bush who signed their demise into law. I have already procured enough to last a lifetime or at least until LEDs become cost effective and send the CFL packing.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:08 PM
 
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Yes, and it's amazing that they don't see the pattern of people and that they will not be responsible. So, saying we are cleaning up the environment is not really a serious issue for them. And I'm like you, I don't want to cry "conspiracy", but what is going on? No one can be that stupid or can they? LOL!
Batteries are substantially more toxic then the trace amount of mercury in light bulbs, and does anyone really dispose of them properly?

This topic is ridiculous and just a bunch of bologna that's been all over fox news. I saw a segment on fox this morning where the person stated how they are so deadly if one cracks, you have to leave the house for 15 minutes and once incandescents are phased out, emergency room visits are going to go through the roof from mercury poisoning.
The one that got me rolling was the blonde bimbo said to the extent "Yeah! plus they make your skin look bad! That's a no-no for women, especially when we're aging"
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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Batteries are substantially more toxic then the trace amount of mercury in light bulbs, and does anyone really dispose of them properly?

This topic is ridiculous and just a bunch of bologna that's been all over fox news. I saw a segment on fox this morning where the person stated how they are so deadly if one cracks, you have to leave the house for 15 minutes and once incandescents are phased out, emergency room visits are going to go through the roof from mercury poisoning.
The one that go me rolling was the blonde bimbo said to the extent "Yeah! plus they make your skin look bad! That's a no-no for women, especially when we're aging"

LOL! Perhaps its fair to say that they are neither the Earth's salvation nor something akin to a Bioweapon.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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It's like they are purposely trying to make people go broke!


Black market? Wonder what they will go for?!
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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Maybe yours were by a better brand. Mine were by Philips.
Like everything you have cheap and better. The better ones do last a long time. They last less time if they are turned off and on a lotl
But still they will outlast the old type. The thing I like is they dont give off huge amounts of heat.

You can spend 10 of so dollars for a sunlight/ott bulb and use it for plants too. The daylight bulbs will give you true colors. I have a coupld of bulbs which are probably 4 years old still working fine.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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currently all my LEDs are in low voltage uses, flashlights, and automotive applications.

when did you buy your LEDs? and are you sure you got the right ones for your application?
Sam's club. Came in a packet, yes, correct application. Less light than the LED flashlights, hardly threw any light at all. Very disappointing. I love my Surefire LED flashlights. LED light bulb replacements for incandescent...not.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:09 AM
 
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Video - Opinion Journal: Saving the Incandescent Bulb - WSJ.com
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:18 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Sam's club. Came in a packet, yes, correct application. Less light than the LED flashlights, hardly threw any light at all. Very disappointing. I love my Surefire LED flashlights. LED light bulb replacements for incandescent...not.
Had the same experience when I tried LED bulbs in my living room. The light was oddly sterile and weak, I felt like in a lab after a catastrophe when only the backup generator provides limited energy
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