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Old 11-26-2010, 05:33 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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If I were to make a set of assertions that totally goes against everything known and provable to man without any basis in reality, I would rightly be mocked. If I called it a region, it would be considered unassailable by logic.
Why should anyone care what you believe as long as it doesn't impact the safety and well being of others? Is there something in human nature that likes to mock, poke fun, ridicule another person? If so, it's a controllable you know.

Understandably, if a person has found something spiritually fulfilling that makes his or her life better, they'd want to share it with others. They, on the other hand, are free to listen, accept or reject. No need to mock ... or IS there?

 
Old 11-26-2010, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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You only think so because the topic is religion. I bet you wouldn't show the same regard for cults or Scientology.

If I were to make a set of assertions that totally goes against everything known and provable to man without any basis in reality, I would rightly be mocked. If I called it a region, it would be considered unassailable by logic.
Yes! Thank you. If I were to claim that there's an invisible Basset Hound running around the room I would be mocked unless I could prove it. However if I say there's an invisible being in the sky listening to our every thought, watching our every deed no one says a word about it except "oh well we must respect everyone's beliefs, etc."
 
Old 11-26-2010, 06:56 AM
 
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Yes! Thank you. If I were to claim that there's an invisible Basset Hound running around the room I would be mocked unless I could prove it. However if I say there's an invisible being in the sky listening to our every thought, watching our every deed no one says a word about it except "oh well we must respect everyone's beliefs, etc."
I think philosopher Bertrand Russell explained it well:

"If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.

If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."
 
Old 11-26-2010, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Is it any wonder why individuals who make their own rules and follow standards that they make up for themselves would be distrusted?
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Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Percentage of atheists - FreeThoughtPedia

Oh yes, those godawful atheists not living by any standards! Just running rampant committing atrocity after atrocity! Thankfully we have such great Christians committing zero crimes!
 
Old 11-26-2010, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Earth
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What always amazes me is that christers believe that they'd be out raping, killing and screwing everything in sight if it weren't for their book of mythology.
 
Old 11-26-2010, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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What always amazes me is that christers believe that they'd be out raping, killing and screwing everything in sight if it weren't for their book of mythology.
[SIZE=2][SIZE=4][/SIZE][/SIZE]If people are good only because they fear punishment and hope for a reward than we are a sorry lot indeed-Albert Einstein.
 
Old 11-26-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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Why should anyone care what you believe as long as it doesn't impact the safety and well being of others? Is there something in human nature that likes to mock, poke fun, ridicule another person? If so, it's a controllable you know.

Understandably, if a person has found something spiritually fulfilling that makes his or her life better, they'd want to share it with others. They, on the other hand, are free to listen, accept or reject. No need to mock ... or IS there?
Oh, under normal circumstance I would agree with you. But you see, there are many people who think that important decisions should be base on such beliefs or even that others should be made to adhere tot hem as well. That's where it gets problematic.
 
Old 11-26-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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It is difficult to believe this thread is still going. It seems that there are those here on C-D who actually believe they will anonymously convince someone else of their life view. Anyway, it certainly bolsters my belief that politics are simply a cover for the real division in America. Very prophetic.
 
Old 11-26-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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It is difficult to believe this thread is still going. It seems that there are those here on C-D who actually believe they will anonymously convince someone else of their life view. Anyway, it certainly bolsters my belief that politics are simply a cover for the real division in America. Very prophetic.
Amen...
 
Old 11-27-2010, 06:52 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Is it any wonder why individuals who make their own rules and follow standards that they make up for themselves would be distrusted?

Please expand on that poorly thought out statement.

In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy, and abortion in the prosperous democracies (Figures 1-9). The most theistic prosperous democracy, the U.S., is exceptional, but not in the manner Franklin predicted. The United States is almost always the most dysfunctional of the developed democracies, sometimes spectacularly so, and almost always scores poorly. The view of the U.S. as a “shining city on the hill” to the rest of the world is falsified when it comes to basic measures of societal health. Youth suicide is an exception to the general trend because there is not a significant relationship between it and religious or secular factors. No democracy is known to have combined strong religiosity and popular denial of evolution with high rates of societal health. Higher rates of non-theism and acceptance of human evolution usually correlate with lower rates of dysfunction, and the least theistic nations are usually the least dysfunctional. None of the strongly secularized, pro-evolution democracies is experiencing high levels of measurable dysfunction. In some cases the highly religious U.S. is an outlier in terms of societal dysfunction from less theistic but otherwise socially comparable secular developed democracies. In other cases, the correlations are strongly graded, sometimes outstandingly so.

Journal of Religion and Society (http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html - broken link)
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