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Old 09-19-2010, 08:08 PM
 
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I wonder if the people of Alaska realize that they receive more federal aid per capita than any other state in the country.
Alaska gets $3 back for every $2 they pay in income tax.

I'm all for letting these right wingers put their money where there mouth is.


Let's exempt them from Federal Income tax and stop all Federal outlays in their State.

Blue Liberal States would make out like bandits!
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:55 PM
 
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The founding fathers were over 200 years ago. It is a different country and in different times now. People need to accept TODAY and quit trying to live 200 or, in the case of religion, 2000 years ago. That was then and this is now.
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Old 09-19-2010, 11:08 PM
 
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The founding fathers were over 200 years ago. It is a different country and in different times now. People need to accept TODAY and quit trying to live 200 or, in the case of religion, 2000 years ago. That was then and this is now.
I didn't realize our Constitution had a freshness date on it. When exactly did it expire?
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:18 AM
 
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on the contrary, just imagine 2 years of perpetual unemployment....... what would those people do if they didn't have anything..........criminal acts are some of the first things that come to mind

I could see it now......a modern day storming of the Bastille
The first things that come to mind to me are what goes on in countries like Pakistan.

The 99 week unemployment benefit extensions are the only thing keeping the US economy from being even worse than it is. That's one of the few economic policies Obama's done right.

Unemployment insurance is essentially the government returning money it collected in taxes to those who paid said taxes. I don't see any problem with this at all.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:25 AM
 
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The first things that come to mind to me are what goes on in countries like Pakistan.

The 99 week unemployment benefit extensions are the only thing keeping the US economy from being even worse than it is. That's one of the few economic policies Obama's done right.

Unemployment insurance is essentially the government returning money it collected in taxes to those who paid said taxes. I don't see any problem with this at all.
No, that's not how it works
Employers pay into the unemployment insurance fund , not employees.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:33 AM
 
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No, that's not how it works
Employers pay into the unemployment insurance fund , not employees.
So why the paycheck deductions?
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:10 AM
 
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There is a general welfare clause in the consititution and unempolyment benefits falls under general welfare.
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:01 AM
 
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There is a general welfare clause in the consititution and unempolyment benefits falls under general welfare.
James Madison, the Father of the Constitution, elaborated upon this limitation in a letter to James Robertson:
“With respect to the two words ‘general welfare,’ I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.”
“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.”
-Thomas Jefferson
“To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816
“…[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.”
-James Madison
“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions.” James Madison, “Letter to Edmund Pendleton,”
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Old 09-20-2010, 04:33 AM
 
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Well I wouldn't go that far. Not all unemployeed folks are sitting around waiting for a CEO position.
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Old 09-20-2010, 06:45 AM
 
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Show us where socialist security and medicare are constitutional. And show us using the writings of the founders that they would be in support.
Forcing people to wear a seat belt is probably unconstitutional too and the Founders never said that we should. Let's abolish the law. Some of the Founders had slaves...I say we still should have that right and then we can send the illegals back home. Women voting? Absurd! Child protection services...ridiculous!
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