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Old 09-24-2010, 08:17 AM
 
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What would they be whining about then? If we went as socialist or communist as the old USSR....what would they be asking for then? Would they actually go conservative and want their capitalism back? Would they want to somehow yet more liberal than that?
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:20 AM
 
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What would they be whining about then? If we went as socialist or communist as the old USSR....what would they be asking for then? Would they actually go conservative and want their capitalism back? Would they want to somehow yet more liberal than that?
What would conservatives want if we went fascist? Because that is the much more likely scenario to happen in America via GOP.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:30 AM
 
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Well what seems to be happening is that we are going socialist with fascist policies.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:31 AM
 
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What would conservatives want if we went fascist? Because that is the much more likely scenario to happen in America via GOP.
Really? You really think that? We're not the ones that want our party to nationalize the big industries in America. We're not the ones that kill a million babies a year.

Really? You think WE'RE the fascists?
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:33 AM
 
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What would they be whining about then? If we went as socialist or communist as the old USSR....what would they be asking for then? Would they actually go conservative and want their capitalism back? Would they want to somehow yet more liberal than that?
History shows that communism occurs, not during democracies, but when nations go totalitarian, into corporatist, fascist, & oligarchist modes. That is why Banana Republics are ALWAYS trying to go communist. That is why Banana Republics are ALWAYS trying to keep the people down.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:35 AM
 
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Really? You really think that? We're not the ones that want our party to nationalize the big industries in America. We're not the ones that kill a million babies a year.

Really? You think WE'RE the fascists?
LOL..Dems nationalized GM and in the process of nationalizing healthcare and they think the Repubs (who are NOT in power) are doing all this ?

2 years and they still haven't realize that THEY are in power and doing all this ?
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:39 AM
 
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Really? You really think that? We're not the ones that want our party to nationalize the big industries in America. We're not the ones that kill a million babies a year.

Really? You think WE'RE the fascists?
You do not know what fascist means. It means corporatist, corporate takeover of government. Unfortunately, the corporations were "too big to fail" under BOTH administrations. Bush did bail-outs without govt oversight, Obama did bail-outs WITH government oversight. The corporations had more power under Bush (that is corporatist), and are being regulated and watched now under WE THE PEOPLE (that is democracy).


Abortion is a seperate issue, has nothing to do with communism & fascism, but a realing bad SCOTUS ruling.
I am pro-life.
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:39 AM
 
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History shows that communism occurs, not during democracies, but when nations go totalitarian, into corporatist, fascist, & oligarchist modes. That is why Banana Republics are ALWAYS trying to go communist. That is why Banana Republics are ALWAYS trying to keep the people down.
I believe that socialism would eventually lead to communism. If we give too much control to the gov't, it would eventually turn into it.


But the point is...if a socialist state is the ultimate goal of libs....what then? What would they do? I don't believe they'd be happy with it. Would they cry out for yet MORE gov't control? Or would they turn conservative?
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:40 AM
 
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LOL..Dems nationalized GM and in the process of nationalizing healthcare and they think the Repubs (who are NOT in power) are doing all this ?

2 years and they still haven't realize that THEY are in power and doing all this ?
Nationalization of anything is FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD, not for the corporations. Our Founding Fathers were really big on "PUBLIC GOOD"
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:41 AM
 
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LOL..Dems nationalized GM and in the process of nationalizing healthcare and they think the Repubs (who are NOT in power) are doing all this ?

2 years and they still haven't realize that THEY are in power and doing all this ?
They realize it. That's why none of them will touch their "accomplishments" during this election period. As soon as it's over if they retained power it'll be back to the grind...

Norman Thomas was only speaking of the people, not the leaders.

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The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
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