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Old 09-21-2010, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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I'll ask you the same question, comes around for who? The law abiding people who have lived their lives according to our customs and laws? Or is this some kind of twisted payback, where the wrongs done by people long dead are being visited on a different people, a people who, neither they nor their ancestors had any guilt for the supposed wrongs done hundreds of years ago.
Soooo the posters semm to agree that it is immoral to conquer by force???? I'm unsure that I can agree with that.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:33 PM
 
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Oh, it's fun to watch our resident lefties try to defend their idiot-in-chief. Sorry kiddies but America has caught on to their mistake even if you haven't.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So, did these natives of Tenochtitlan call themselves Mexicans? or did they administrate a nation called Mexico? or were they primarily tribesmen of a Tenochtitlan Mexico descent?or how was that described?
Nope,they didn't...

The lengths the followers of Obama will go to not have their leader look like a doofus is incredible...
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Just when the wacky left thought it could not get worse for them-it has.

There will be a landslide in November.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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That was Mexico city not the country that is Mexico now.
If the people of Mexico city are not Mexicans, than who the hell is? The OP didn't know that Mexicans existed before 1776 or 1810, clearly a thread that fails on epic proportions.

By the way, Mexico now, isn't what it was in 1810 either.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Houston area, for now
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Big problem with your attempt to weasel your way out of this one, Mexico was the name of the region well before the Spanish tried to call it Nuevo Espania.
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Mexico is the name of a nation. North America is the name of a continent. The continent pre-dated the nation.

The US predated the nation too.

If you argue that "America" is a concept, then you must agree that the many concepts of liberty pre-dated both the US and Mexico, as well as, to a major extent, the discovery of "America" by Colombus.

Borders were defind at the Texas Revolution the Fall of 1835 and 36

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Old 09-21-2010, 08:44 PM
 
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... in 1846, American philosopher Henry David Thoreau spent a night in jail as a protest against America's imperialism in the Mexican American War.

When Thoreau was a young man, the United States extended from the east coast to the states just west of the Mississippi River. The states we know today as Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and Colorado all belonged to Mexico. Yet there were many Americans who felt that it was our "manifest destiny" (or God given right) to control the entire land "from sea to shining sea." The fact that these lands belonged to Mexico was a small inconvenience to then U.S. President James Polk, who had hoped to gain these lands peacefully, but was ready to go to war if Mexico put up a fight.

...Since he was not joined by the masses in his protest, this unjust war against Mexico went on, and the United States eventually took 500,000 square miles of land from Mexico.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:45 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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If the people of Mexico city are not Mexicans, than who the hell is? The OP didn't know that Mexicans existed before 1776 or 1810, clearly a thread that fails on epic proportions.
No.no they didn't....keep trying to make your leader NOT look like a fool.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:45 PM
 
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Mexico is the name of a nation.
A name that predates the establishment of the nation, as the above citations point out which validates the President's statement.

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North America is the name of a continent. The continent pre-dated the nation.
Thank you for the geography lesson, but while I generally hate to be pedantic, North America is not a nation but rather a land mass that contains three nations, the Republic of Mexico, the United States and Canada.

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The US predated the nation too.
The United States didn't predate the nation. Prior to the declaration of independence there were simply 13 separate colonies of the British Empire.

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If you argue that "America" is a concept,
I don't.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Borders were defind at the Texas Revolution the Fall of 1835 and 36

Spain
Then you agree with me. Mexico did not pre-date the US--either as a nation or as a concept. Therefore, given the other issues, Obama is an un-patriotic American president.
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