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Originally Posted by John1960
IRBIL, Iraq, Sept. 22 (UPI) -- Baghdad is again locked in a dispute with Iraq's independence-minded Kurds over ownership of the oil in their semi-autonomous enclave and the Kurds, their political clout waning, look like they are losing.
The confrontation has inflamed sectarian and political tensions as U.S. forces withdraw and the country struggles to cobble together a government six months after stalemated parliamentary elections.
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Ho hum, boring.
I already mentioned that 2 freaking years ago.
//www.city-data.com/forum/5690691-post100.html
Well, then, okay, 1 year and 11 months ago.
//www.city-data.com/forum/5218469-post5.html
So it was 2 years ago.
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Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy
This is NOT surprising. If you know the history of the region then you know that at some level the whole Kurdish independence issue has to be confronted in both Iraq and Turkey. Iraq is loath to give the Kurds full independence due to the loss of oil revenue. Turkey doesn't want Iraq to give Iraqi Kurds independence because they are fearful it will spark an independence movement amongst Kurds in Turkey.
It's not surprising to see sectarian violence in Iraq. With no one central force to hold the country together centuries old issues are emerging. You really have to wonder how are they going to hold the country together and govern in a way that addresses different sectarian needs and issues.
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I get the impression education in the US is no longer compulsory.
Wanna hear a story?
About 90 years ago a bunch of Ivory Tower Liberal Elitists got together and forced people to acknowledge, accept and live in a country that had never before existed and nobody really wanted.
That country had Jews, Muslims, Romanians, Greeks, Germans, Slovaks, Magyars, Slovenians, Herzos, Albanians, Serbians, Croats, Vojvodinas, Romi, Dalmatians, Bulgars, Slovaks, and a few other groups.
And they spoke Hebrew, Arabic, Romanian, Ara-Romanian, Greek, German, Slovak, Magyar, Slovenian, a dialect of Serbian, Albanian, Serbian, Croat, a different dialect of Serbian, Roma, a dialect of Croatian, Bulgarian, Slovakian and a few other languages.
And they used the Hebrew alphabet, Arabic alphabet, a version of the Western Alphabet, the Greek alphabet, another version of the Western alphabet, still yet another version of the Western Alphabet, the Magyar alphabet, another version of the Western Alphabet, the Cyrillic alphabet, one more version of the Western alphabet, and still yet another version of the Western alphabet.
And for as many ethnic groups as there were, there were 12 times as many religions and everyone insisted on speaking their own language and having their children educated in their own language and reading newspapers and such in their own language.
And the only reason that country stayed together was because it was a dictatorship.
And 20 years after the people were forced by the Ivory Tower Liberal Elitists into a country that had never before existed and nobody really wanted, it started to fall apart.
So once again the Ivory Tower Liberal Elitists stepped and they had two men, one American and one Brit and both parachuted into this country. The American went to stay with the dictator and the Brit (who just died recently -- his name was McLean) went to stay with a guy called Josip Broz. Since Josip Broz was a better dictator-to-be than the other dictator, the US and UK supported Broz and helped him put down the civil so "the- country-that-should-never-have-existed-in-the-first-place" could continue to exist because it was beneficial to the US and UK.
Then 50 years later the Ivory Tower Liberal Elitists decided that "the- country-that-should-never-have-existed-in-the-first-place" was no longer beneficial to them and they dismantled it by having O Canada F-18s and the US Air Nasty Guard bomb every post office and bridge into oblivion while the US Navy hammered the Chinese Embassy with cruise missiles so the French could get a free set of souvenir chopsticks and some cooley jackets.
That country was the former "Land of the Southern Slavs" (Yugoslavia).
And the same Ivory Tower Liberal Elistists who gave us "the-country-that- should-never-have-existed-in-the-first-place" also were kind enough to present to us the "the other-country-that-should-never-have-existed-in-the-first-place" and the "other-other-country-that-should-never-have-existed-in-the-first-place."
And of course that would Iraq and Kuwait who were "created" by the fat slob alcoholic Churchill. Kuwait was actually and accident and was "created" when Churchill farted and the pen made a little squiggly line on the map.
Satayana said, "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
And the US said, "Do as I say, not as I do."
The US didn't blink when Pakistan split from India, and the US didn't blink when East Pakistan split from West Pakistan, and the US didn't blink when lots of other countries split apart, and the US even helped the Czechs and Slovaks split and then of course the US dismantled Yugoslavia.
But when the Kurds ask for their own country, they get denied on the basis of.......what exactly? What logical reason? No logical reason, other than the US needs Iraq in order to take over Iran and Afghanistan so it can take over Central Asia so it can dismantle Russia
in the exact same way it dismantled Yugoslavia.
There's just a little twist there as Russia still has nukes including about 3,000 or so ERW (Enhanced Radiation Weapons -- yeah the Neutron Bomb) that they can fire with their M1931 towed howitzers and about 300 odd rounds they can fire with their SS-26 and one or two other missile systems like the SS-21 and SS-23.
The Kurds are deserving of their own country and hopefully the Russians can help them get one, and if the Turks don't like it then Barry-boy needs to off of his ass and do some of that diplomacy stuff like dissing the Queen of England and the Duke of Luxembourg and the Kings and Queens of the Netherlands and Belgium and twist some arms to get the Euros to allow the Turks into the EU in exchange for Kurdish independence.
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