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Old 09-24-2010, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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"Opposition to the Obama administration’s economic-stimulus package didn’t stop at least 24 congressional Republicans from lobbying the Department of Energy on behalf of companies and constituents who wanted stimulus contracts and grants from it.

Reps. Jo Bonner of Alabama, Dan Lungren of California, Doug Lamborn and Mike Coffman of Colorado, Lynn Westmoreland, Jack Kingston and Nathan Deal of Georgia, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Fred Upton, Vernon Ehlers, Thaddeus McCotter, Candice Miller and Pete Hoekstra of Michigan, Jim Jordan and Michael Turner of Ohio, Joe Wilson of South Carolina, Phil Roe and Zach Wamp of Tennessee and Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington along with Sens. Mike Crapo of Idaho, Sam Brownback of Kansas and Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker of Tennessee and Bob Bennett of Utah wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and top Energy Department officials asking them to consider particular recipients for stimulus dollars in 2009."

GOP Lawmakers Sought Energy Stimulus Funds - Washington Wire - WSJ

So let's see what some of these folks have been up to this past year. . .

Dan Lundgren via Youtube:

“This crisis should not be seen as an opportunity to fund every pet project. . .The idea is not to grow government, but to grow the economy, create jobs. Unfortunately the stimulus package passed by the House fails on this count.”


YouTube - Stimulus

Well, waddaya know? Dan Lundgren wrote a letter to the Department of Energy that reads in part:

"We write today to. . . ask for your support for $70 million in funding from the recently passed American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. . . It is estimated that funding would employ 100 people over a three year period."

So the stimulus bill that fails to create jobs will create jobs for 100 people in your district?

Congressman Doug Lamborn of Colorado voted against the Stimulus Bill, saying on his website (https://lamborn.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=54&parentid=22&sectiontree=21, 22,54&itemid=100 - broken link) “This spending bill is a sorry substitute for a comprehensive economic stimulus plan. . . . It will actually weaken our nation’s long-term economic growth."

Oh really? It was only 12 days later that he wrote to the administration asking for stimulus funds, saying “These projects will create jobs. . . [and] will provide significant stimulus to our state and national economy.”

I feel like invoking my Gomer Pyle immitation -- Well gooooool-ly!

And guess who else signed on to that letter! None other than Congressman Mike Coffman, who is on record decrying the stimulus bill thusly: “The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 is a massive and wasteful government spending bill that will not stimulate our economy, but will recklessly plunge our nation deeper and deeper into debt.”


YouTube - Congressman Mike Coffman on the Stimulus Package 1.28.09

Well gee, Congressman Coffman, perhaps you shouldn't have contributed to that debt by asking for funding from that bill if that's what you thought? How about that for integrity?

Then we have the lovely Congressman Lynn Westmoreland who thinks "Dem ‘stimulus’ a raw deal for American families (http://westmoreland.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=111461 - broken link)" and is "unnecessary spending that won’t create jobs."

Won't create jobs, huh? Then what's this all about, Congressman?

"In deciding how to allocate the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act's funding, please give consideration to. . . funding to complete. . . pilot projects. The research laboratory would employ 25 to 50 scientists and technicians, with secondary employment of up to 400 people.”

Joining him in this request was Congressman Jack Kingston, who said, “Mr. President. Where’s the stimulus package? Where are the jobs? This is NOT the change the folks in Coffee County Georgia can use. They need jobs.”

I'm sorry, aren't those jobs you're talking about in your letter to the Energy Department?

<sigh>

Michael Turner of Ohio is now apparently seeing ghosts.

“More Americans believe Elvis is alive than those that believe the stimulus created jobs.”




“I request your support for . . . an application for funding under the American Recover and Reinvestment Act. . . The project will create and retain highly skilled jobs.”

There's more, but I'm getting angry gathering up the evidence against these two-bit liars who have schnookered half the country into following them off the cliff.

How do they sleep at night? How is it that people in this country bought into their arguments against the stimulus bill, but are unaware that they had their fingers crossed behind their backs? Do they care? Where is Fox News on this? Do they care? Don't they think their viewers might care?

I swear I'm living in a nightmare here, desperately trying to get people to see what's going on, but they're all walking around wearing blindfolds.

The letters. (pdf file)
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Old 09-24-2010, 10:57 PM
 
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"Opposition to the Obama administration’s economic-stimulus package didn’t stop at least 24 congressional Republicans from lobbying the Department of Energy on behalf of companies and constituents who wanted stimulus contracts and grants from it.

Reps. Jo Bonner of Alabama, Dan Lungren of California, Doug Lamborn and Mike Coffman of Colorado, Lynn Westmoreland, Jack Kingston and Nathan Deal of Georgia, Jerry Moran of Kansas, Fred Upton, Vernon Ehlers, Thaddeus McCotter, Candice Miller and Pete Hoekstra of Michigan, Jim Jordan and Michael Turner of Ohio, Joe Wilson of South Carolina, Phil Roe and Zach Wamp of Tennessee and Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington along with Sens. Mike Crapo of Idaho, Sam Brownback of Kansas and Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker of Tennessee and Bob Bennett of Utah wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and top Energy Department officials asking them to consider particular recipients for stimulus dollars in 2009."

GOP Lawmakers Sought Energy Stimulus Funds - Washington Wire - WSJ

So let's see what some of these folks have been up to this past year. . .

Dan Lundgren via Youtube:

“This crisis should not be seen as an opportunity to fund every pet project. . .The idea is not to grow government, but to grow the economy, create jobs. Unfortunately the stimulus package passed by the House fails on this count.”


YouTube - Stimulus

Well, waddaya know? Dan Lundgren wrote a letter to the Department of Energy that reads in part:

"We write today to. . . ask for your support for $70 million in funding from the recently passed American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. . . It is estimated that funding would employ 100 people over a three year period."

So the stimulus bill that fails to create jobs will create jobs for 100 people in your district?

Congressman Doug Lamborn of Colorado voted against the Stimulus Bill, saying on his website (https://lamborn.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=54&parentid=22&sectiontree=21, 22,54&itemid=100 - broken link) “This spending bill is a sorry substitute for a comprehensive economic stimulus plan. . . . It will actually weaken our nation’s long-term economic growth."

Oh really? It was only 12 days later that he wrote to the administration asking for stimulus funds, saying “These projects will create jobs. . . [and] will provide significant stimulus to our state and national economy.”

I feel like invoking my Gomer Pyle immitation -- Well gooooool-ly!

And guess who else signed on to that letter! None other than Congressman Mike Coffman, who is on record decrying the stimulus bill thusly: “The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 is a massive and wasteful government spending bill that will not stimulate our economy, but will recklessly plunge our nation deeper and deeper into debt.”


YouTube - Congressman Mike Coffman on the Stimulus Package 1.28.09

Well gee, Congressman Coffman, perhaps you shouldn't have contributed to that debt by asking for funding from that bill if that's what you thought? How about that for integrity?

Then we have the lovely Congressman Lynn Westmoreland who thinks "Dem ‘stimulus’ a raw deal for American families (http://westmoreland.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=111461 - broken link)" and is "unnecessary spending that won’t create jobs."

Won't create jobs, huh? Then what's this all about, Congressman?

"In deciding how to allocate the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act's funding, please give consideration to. . . funding to complete. . . pilot projects. The research laboratory would employ 25 to 50 scientists and technicians, with secondary employment of up to 400 people.”

Joining him in this request was Congressman Jack Kingston, who said, “Mr. President. Where’s the stimulus package? Where are the jobs? This is NOT the change the folks in Coffee County Georgia can use. They need jobs.”

I'm sorry, aren't those jobs you're talking about in your letter to the Energy Department?

<sigh>

Michael Turner of Ohio is now apparently seeing ghosts.

“More Americans believe Elvis is alive than those that believe the stimulus created jobs.”




“I request your support for . . . an application for funding under the American Recover and Reinvestment Act. . . The project will create and retain highly skilled jobs.”

There's more, but I'm getting angry gathering up the evidence against these two-bit liars who have schnookered half the country into following them off the cliff.

How do they sleep at night? How is it that people in this country bought into their arguments against the stimulus bill, but are unaware that they had their fingers crossed behind their backs? Do they care? Where is Fox News on this? Do they care? Don't they think their viewers might care?

I swear I'm living in a nightmare here, desperately trying to get people to see what's going on, but they're all walking around wearing blindfolds.

The letters. (pdf file)
This is so despicable. Parastic hypocrites. There's so much information out there and most of it lies, rhetoric and propaganda from the right wing spin machine that these things get buried. They are also intending to repeal Healthcare Reform, but get this...they are going to put back in place seven of the provisions and then call it theirs. I'll find the link to that and post it when I do.
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:05 PM
 
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So you think taht taxpayers moeny is just for the special interest that vote for it? I didn't see massvie numbers of democrats send in mney because they didn't want Bush's tax cuts either. Basically the stimulus wasn;t very successful while sold as a masive infrastrcuutree bill creating large number of jobs its amounted to 7% spent on it.
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Here
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Someone has waaaay too much time on their hands.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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so let's see.......you complaining about what???

that they were against a unstimulating stimulus, and then asked for the government funding that would still get passed out without the stimulus



thread is a failure
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Old 09-25-2010, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Of course they're going to put their hand out for a chunk -- their constituents are taxpayers too. And if they have to pay into a system whether they want to or not, they're perfectly entitled to fight to get their share of it back. But since you're more fond of feigning outrage than demonstrating even a rudimentary capacity for anything beyond a superficial thought process, you'll go ahead and pretend like a constituency should be expected to fork over money for everyone's benefit but their own if Congress passes anyone else's budget priorities but theirs. And while it's kind of entertaining, you should know that this act of turning the back of your hand against your forehead and catching a case of the vapors at thoroughly non-controversial actions is not very convincing.
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Old 09-25-2010, 01:33 AM
 
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Reminds me of GOP congressman Steve King from Iowa who voted against aid to Katrina victims, but later asked Obama to declare Iowa a national disaster and requested money from the federal government.
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Old 09-25-2010, 01:33 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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So you think taht taxpayers moeny is just for the special interest that vote for it? I didn't see massvie numbers of democrats send in mney because they didn't want Bush's tax cuts either. Basically the stimulus wasn;t very successful while sold as a masive infrastrcuutree bill creating large number of jobs its amounted to 7% spent on it.

Sorry I couldn't rep you again.

Like they are supposed to decline money that is going to be spent anyway.

The problem is that $70,000,000 that is supposed to create 100 jobs for three years will cost $233,333 per job per year. I applaud Republicans for doing all they could to stop this wasteful spending that will be passed along to our children so limousine liberals can build monuments to their taxpayer-funded benevolence.
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Old 09-25-2010, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Of course they're going to put their hand out for a chunk -- their constituents are taxpayers too. And if they have to pay into a system whether they want to or not, they're perfectly entitled to fight to get their share of it back. But since you're more fond of feigning outrage than demonstrating even a rudimentary capacity for anything beyond a superficial thought process, you'll go ahead and pretend like a constituency should be expected to fork over money for everyone's benefit but their own if Congress passes anyone else's budget priorities but theirs. And while it's kind of entertaining, you should know that this act of turning the back of your hand against your forehead and catching a case of the vapors at thoroughly non-controversial actions is not very convincing.
Love the personal attack attached to nothing but a bunch of complete nonsense.

They're the ones who riled up their constituents to be rabidly against this bill with their frothing rhetoric about how it would not create jobs. So don't tell me they were only doing what their constituents wanted or deserved.

And that money didn't "have" to be spent -- much of it still isn't. And as the article I linked to states, many Republicans who voted against it have had the courage of their convictions not to put their hands out for a piece of it.

Not to mention, when these jokers were fighting against its passage, lying about how it wouldn't create any jobs, every one of them knew damn good and well that there were projects in their states that could and would benefit from federal funds to do exactly what they were saying it wouldn't -- create jobs. That's why as soon as it was passed, they started writing letters describing in great detail how that money would, indeed, stimulate their state's economy and create jobs.

They LIED to you. They LIED to their constituents. Then they are shameless enough that they HIDE from their constituents that the very things they told them would not work with this bill, are the things that are working, by virtue of the fact that they're requesting the funds to make it do so!

My anger isn't feigned, it's very, very real. And the replies here prove my point that the people who got lied to will never, ever get it and nor do they care. It's despicable.
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Old 09-25-2010, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Yep, that stimulus has created piles of jobs. That's why we're all back to work. That bunch of liars. The real beacons of truth of course were those in the "recovery summer" administration who promised us they'd save us from 8% unemployment if the stimulus were rammed through Congress before anyone had a chance to scrutinize it. And thanks to them, happy days are here again!

If asking for their own taxpayers' money back is enough to make you this angry, I wonder what you're like when you become cognizant of something actually worth getting angry about. I bet it would be even more entertaining.

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